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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 11, 2022 18:05:30 GMT
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Post by sq225917 on Apr 11, 2022 18:43:27 GMT
Inner groove distortion is down to cart tracking angle and the discrepancy between the linear cut groove and the replayed arc with none parallel groove walls.
It's not a speed issue per se, it's a tracking error issue, that doesn't exist on linear arms.
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Post by macca on Apr 11, 2022 19:14:36 GMT
That's tracing distortion though isn't it?
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Post by optical on Apr 25, 2022 7:52:04 GMT
Found a plinth for the SP10 which fell into the 'acceptable' pricing strategy via eBay . . . . It looks more sturdy than the lower range (and standard) SP10 plinths, not quite sure what it is exactly, most likely ply but its heavy. How bad is my phone camera by the way?! I had phones in the early 00's which took better shots! The zebra-wood wouldn't have been my first choice but with some varnishing it should make it look a bit less 70's drinks cabinet veneer . . . . Unfortunately it has a hole pre-drilled for a 10" arm, of which there aren't too many about for a reasonable price. Might have to fit an arm-board to it, which I don't really want to do if I'm honest. I'd rather find one that just fits how it is. I don't really have enough experience with TT's to know if fitting an arm-board is worth the hassle or if I should persevere with the search for a 10" tonearm . . . . Comments, suggestions, criticism . . . all welcome!
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Post by antonio on Apr 25, 2022 15:36:01 GMT
I can't help regarding the fitting of the arm (I do have one of those Rega arm fitments you can have cheap if it helps) but the plinth looks ok to me.
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Post by firebottle on Apr 26, 2022 19:28:38 GMT
Chris, if you are serious about getting the best out of you vinyl playback get a Blackbird arm with the new magnetic bearing. You can have a 10 inch made to fit.
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Post by optical on Apr 27, 2022 7:30:45 GMT
Chris, if you are serious about getting the best out of you vinyl playback get a Blackbird arm with the new magnetic bearing. You can have a 10 inch made to fit. Thanks Alan, after speaking to a certain guru it looks like a Rega arm can actually sit quite happily at the edge of said hole with a plate cut out for it so happy days! This after all, won't be the SP10's final guise it's more of a 'get up and running' setup just so I can have it working until I can properly go to town on plinths/tonearms etc. I've had a tonearm with the magnetic bearing before (Clearaudio) couldn't fault it to be fair.
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Post by macca on Apr 27, 2022 15:54:59 GMT
You want to get an air bearing linear tracker for it.
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Post by misterc on Apr 27, 2022 16:10:33 GMT
You want proper digital for it, analogue bah humbug
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Post by optical on Apr 29, 2022 9:23:39 GMT
So the plinth I've purchased is a bit basic, it's fine but I though I'd try and make it look a bit more exciting and the SP10 platter deserves to be shown off a bit rather than just looking like it's been bolted to a piece of 2x4. I'm not a huge fan of the Zebrano-wood finish but I though with a stain and some gloss to get it shining, it should look a bit better. Here she is with the stain. It wasn't looking too bad I thought, until I went to apply another coat . . . . oh dear, it was highlighting quite a few little imperfections in the grain and also reacting a little bit with what was possibly a very thin layer of varnish already on the plinth. I had assumed it was just untreated bare wood as the previous owner hadn't used it, but maybe a coat from the factory or something else was in fact the top layer. Sand it back down!! Haha, 2 hours later by hand . . . . Okay back to where we started (actually no you could now tell this was bare wood now and it looked all the better for it). Having a look around I quite like the contrast between the Zebrano wood and a plain piano black. Most plinths seem to have a black top and wooden sides (for the SP10 at least) . . . so I thought I'd do something a bit different. Stained the top to bring some colour out of the grain, light sand and another coat of stain. Decent contrast of grain and wood now. Tape that off and gloss black the sides. Light sand between coats but not so much as to lose the grain which can still be seen in certain light. One more coat of gloss black and left to dry overnight. I'm just glossing it up a bit now with some clear lacquer, again with light sanding in between. Hopefully be dry by this afternoon and I can get a pic with the SP10 sitting inside! Might not be everyone's cup of tea (in fact I kinda hope it's not!) but it's actually turning out pretty much how I hoped, which is not something I always manage to achieve with the DIY
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Post by antonio on Apr 29, 2022 9:41:50 GMT
I like the that, well done.
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Post by macca on Apr 29, 2022 9:47:50 GMT
I'm not much for zebrano either, especially on big things like speakers, it's just too 'busy' but I know a lot of people go nuts for it.
Doing the sides gloss black is a good move, if it were me I'd do the whole thing gloss white though.
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Post by pete on Apr 29, 2022 11:54:38 GMT
This is starting to look really good IMO, Black on the sides is an inspired touch. Looking forward to seeing the SP10 sitting inside it.
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Post by optical on Apr 29, 2022 12:03:13 GMT
Thanks all A couple more better pics here showing what I mean about the grain on both the top and the sides. When the light hits it you can really see it but if the lights dim it looks smooth and un-textured. It's turning out to look quite unique I think, which I like. Last coat of gloss going on now so hopefully dropping the SP10 in soon . . . . although really I should leave the last coat to dry and harden for 24hrs . . .
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Post by karma67 on Apr 29, 2022 12:06:47 GMT
Thanks all A couple more better pics here showing what I mean about the grain on both the top and the sides. When the light hits it you can really see it but if the lights dim it looks smooth and un-textured. It's turning out to look quite unique I think, which I like. Last coat of gloss going on now so hopefully dropping the SP10 in soon . . . . although really I should leave the last coat to dry and harden for 24hrs . . . yes for sure,you dont want it sticking to it.
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Post by optical on Apr 29, 2022 12:09:13 GMT
yes for sure,you dont want it sticking to it. Oh absolutely not. Yeah, there's absolutely no chance I'm going to rush the last bit now, especially having sanded it back to bare once already!
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Post by brian2957 on Apr 29, 2022 12:20:38 GMT
Not a massive fan of Zebrano here either but I could quite easily live with that. Nice work Chris
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Post by misterc on Apr 29, 2022 13:45:38 GMT
Looking neat Chris well done
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Post by optical on Apr 29, 2022 13:51:44 GMT
Looking neat Chris well done Thanks Tony, there's things I'll do differently next time (mostly regarding prep work) but overall I'm pretty pleased with how it's turned out so far . . . . Unfortunately I think the adapter plate (to convert the current hole for a 10" arm to a 9" REGA type) will foul where the SP10 motor/drive assembly sits within the plinth. It's either a counter-sink job to get it flush or get a custom plate made . . . probably the latter. So even when this is done I'm hardly out of the woods yet! All part of the fun I suppose . . .
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Post by misterc on Apr 29, 2022 15:28:36 GMT
Hindsight is a wonderful thing Chris, however we all can say similar thoughts especially as you have never ventured done this route before, if you decide to produce another one you can impliment what you feel you have picked up while making this one. Its the joy of human nature, we never never stop learning (thankfully). This week I have come across some particularly 'average' circuit board work and no matter how careful or what removal system I used (Infered pre heaters and hot air stations) I ended up with pulled through hole issues. Now I have quite a few tricks to rescue the situation, however even a few of them were beyond my ability. However a quick call to a good friend who works with very delicate electronics helped me out, the upshot of that visit was realising that there is more than one to skin a cat so these arrived yesterday:
All posible options on boards repairs quite something!
Just practicing as we speak, why did I not have this last week
Oh and Wadia number 58 arrived at noon, now where did I put my other shelves
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Post by antonio on Apr 29, 2022 15:45:24 GMT
Looks like you can cause some damage with that kit, or else take up Chiropody
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Post by misterc on Apr 29, 2022 15:57:22 GMT
Looks like you can cause some damage with that kit, or else take up Chiropody Suuuusshhh, you be letting the cat out the bag with my next career move
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Post by firebottle on Apr 29, 2022 16:08:10 GMT
Plinth looks great Chris 👍
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Post by sq225917 on Apr 29, 2022 17:02:16 GMT
Bit or tinted black shellac to build up a fade to the edge, would look lovely
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Post by optical on Apr 29, 2022 17:17:15 GMT
Plinth looks great Chris 👍 Thanks Al, pleased for a first attempt....
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Post by edward on Apr 29, 2022 18:34:52 GMT
What black gloss did you use Chris?
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Post by optical on Apr 29, 2022 18:40:51 GMT
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Post by edward on Apr 29, 2022 20:57:53 GMT
Cheers Chris. Looks good. I asked as I have a couple of projects that need doing.
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Post by optical on May 1, 2022 10:43:17 GMT
Bit or tinted black shellac to build up a fade to the edge, would look lovely Wouldn't even know where to begin with doing that but can imagine it might look quite unique.
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Post by antonio on May 1, 2022 13:36:07 GMT
optical You could make it more unique with a few stick on purple stars!!
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