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Post by antonio on Jan 23, 2022 16:01:51 GMT
I might be confused between the two, sorry if I've led all and sundry down the wrong path. My brain hurts
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Post by pete on Jan 23, 2022 19:47:45 GMT
Realistic is Tandy, not Laskys. Remember Tandy used to price their speakers individually. Even then I thought the 4 or 5 way speaker used to look like something you would find being sold by Amstrad, could have got that very wrong though. Bought a tiny cassette player there to of with my Sinclair Spectrum 48K, that is another story though.
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Post by robbiegong on Jan 23, 2022 20:20:12 GMT
Hifi and nostalgia, I honestly wouldn't know where to start, have always loved and had music in my life so hifi in some shape or form was always there and it didn't take me long to be drawn to kit, drooling over all manner of stuf that was unobtainable to a regular young wide eyed lad, from very humble beginnings/background. Music made life great, made me feel alive, hifi made me dream. I told myself that when I got older I'd have a system/set up and I've had something to play my tunes on, pretty much since my teenage years. When lady Gong and I got together and then bought the house we've currently been in for the past 21 years, I vowed at the time that I would have and put together a proper decent system, and here I am, still at it haven't done too bad so far, not done yet - Hifi and music will be a part of me til my very last day on this here particular physical plain and realm
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Post by misterc on Jan 23, 2022 20:22:06 GMT
Cripes the spectrum manic miner lol
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Post by pete on Jan 23, 2022 22:32:49 GMT
Cripes the spectrum manic miner lol Yep, and Daley Thompson track and field, all based around how quickly you can bang 2 keys on that rubber keyboard.
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Post by electronumpty on Jan 23, 2022 22:51:39 GMT
Listening to the radio (radio 2) the other day, there is a New York brass band that specialises in covers/interpretations of old video game music. They played their take on the Tetris game music, bizarre but quite fun.
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Post by pete on Jan 26, 2022 20:15:53 GMT
Thinking back to my first proper system and how great it was, and how much enjoyment it gave me.
THE SR222 Mk2 was a great lump of blackness with a perspex dust cover, very un-Danette like. To show it was real hifi you had to manually put the stylus on the record and manually lift the arm at the end of the record, singles were great, LPs were better. The way the Sansui A60 jumped into life with its flashing LED levels, and the velcro just didn't quite hold the foam onto the front of the AR18s. Fantastic stuff.
One or two of my mates had a 'hifi' system and record swapping became the norm.
Then I went to university, should I take my hifi or leave it at home. I thought leave it, I had heard about all the goings on at university and hifi should not be involved. So there I was, going away to live with a lot of future mates, leaving all my music behind, having instead a Saisho personal tape player, walkman type thing, but it was massive, you would need those spanner trousers if it was to fit in a pocket. To this I had wired up a pair of car speakers. This with a box of cassettes was all I needed!
Course, when you get there a few people have hifi so it crept down at some point. When I was in a Hall of Residence that time of the evening when everyone was listening to different music was quite memorable. Sitting on a window sill, window open, advertising your favourite sounds.
And there was some weird stuff there. I remember some guy, with a Catweazle beard, who had a record deck that automatically worked out where to drop the arm between tracks, you could tell it track 3 by pressing the 3 button, and it crused across and completely failed to find track 3. Seems it had a laser or something else that did not work, to always play the exact track you had not chosen to hear.
Then the guy who made his own speakers. So large they seem to be made out of doors. Crammed into his tiny room, hardly space left for a bed, no chance to get a desk in, and you needed a desk for your Sinclair Spectrum, to play Manic Miner! Posh students had a BBC micro, one lad from far away- Jersey- had an Atari, wow - not hifi related though so no space for it here.
Back home my brother was working in an electrical shop and flying through different hifi stuff, which led to my next upgrade, A60 to NAD 3020A, bought second hand from him, probably bit of a sideways move. Looked the part though and great little thud through the speakers when turning it on, I remember it vividly, as I still have it upstairs connected to a Dual CS505, with Ortofon 10 cartridge, classic early 80s system.
Holiday jobs paid of the debts, debts no where near todays levels. Remember student grants and no course fees. I even had a little money left for further upgrades, and as I left university I had replaced the lot and had a Systemdek 11x manual, again with the Nagoka MP11, this time with a boron cantilever, the NAD 3020A and a pair of monitor audio 352s, balanced on Linn Kan stands, which were left over from the AR18s. This was sounding much more serious to my ears. Great for parties. Selling my CT200 to a mate gave me funds to buy an Aiwa AD-F660, from my brothers shop, I think I go a pretty special deal that day. This was an amazing machine. I never really knew how amazing it was for a tape deck. I used it up until about 10 years ago, when it suddenly stopped working, and no one was using cassettes so I threw it away!! if only, but we have all done things like that we regret.
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Post by pete on Jan 29, 2022 23:16:21 GMT
I was happy with this system for a few years until I was led to the merky depths of hifi shows and the persuasions of hifi manufacturers.
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 30, 2022 8:26:08 GMT
Great Installment.
NAD get some stick, but I've never heard something NAD that I didn't like.
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Post by antonio on Jan 30, 2022 10:49:01 GMT
Great Installment. NAD get some stick, but I've never heard something NAD that I didn't like. Do they?
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 30, 2022 11:45:21 GMT
Great Installment. NAD get some stick, but I've never heard something NAD that I didn't like. Do they? Well they aren't considered any better than what you can buy in Richer sounds, but they are really enjoyable bits IME.
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Post by pete on Jan 30, 2022 20:36:25 GMT
So this is where things get a bit more contentious!!
Up to this point I think I could happily talk about gear being bought as a 'young' lad, but as I got a bit more money, sort of available, i Got led down a certain, dangerous path.... to the dark side!!
Late 80s and hifi shows had huge varieties of exciting equipment, massive boxes and even more massive speakers. It was at one of these shows I was seduced by the sound of a Linn LP12 and thought that was the next logical step. It looked good and I thought it sounded great, I was told, it sounded great - if not a bit boomy. I listened, with my mate Rodger, to the Naim / Linn demo where they gradually went through upgrading amps and adding power supplies to experience the improving sound, and hear what 'amazingness' was capable of being recreated.
The LP12 was my decision, but it was bloody pricey for me. After what seemed like months of hard saving, I moved house and stretched the mortgage a bit, as you did in the early 90s and went into Audio Excellence on Crwys Road, Cardiff (where I had bought my 352s)
The sales guy was one of those excitable hifi shop blokes who you got in the 80s/ 90s. The type who put on a piece of music and had to dance around to it. He had the little, narrow tie and hifi hair. Demos done, choices made I got a new deck with second hand arm and power supply, the Ittok arm looked stunning to my eyes. Can't remember how much it was, but it was just about affordable and I was pleased. This was the deck I wanted, because all the people I knew who were in to hifi wanted one. Everyone I knew talked about it, aspired to it and wanted it.
A week later it was delivered to my house and set up with the NAD and 352s. I was following the Linn way, front end first.... don't worry the NAD 3020A will be great!! And it was, for the best part of 10 years.
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Post by Bigman80 on Jan 30, 2022 21:55:38 GMT
So this is where things get a bit more contentious!! Up to this point I think I could happily talk about gear being bought as a 'young' lad, but as I got a bit more money, sort of available, i Got led down a certain, dangerous path.... to the dark side!! Late 80s and hifi shows had huge varieties of exciting equipment, massive boxes and even more massive speakers. It was at one of these shows I was seduced by the sound of a Linn LP12 and thought that was the next logical step. It looked good and I thought it sounded great, I was told, it sounded great - if not a bit boomy. I listened, with my mate Rodger, to the Naim / Linn demo where they gradually went through upgrading amps and adding power supplies to experience the improving sound, and hear what 'amazingness' was capable of being recreated. The LP12 was my decision, but it was bloody pricey for me. After what seemed like months of hard saving, I moved house and stretched the mortgage a bit, as you did in the early 90s and went into Audio Excellence on Crwys Road, Cardiff (where I had bought my 352s) The sales guy was one of those excitable hifi shop blokes who you got in the 80s/ 90s. The type who put on a piece of music and had to dance around to it. He had the little, narrow tie and hifi hair. Demos done, choices made I got a new deck with second hand arm and power supply, the Ittok arm looked stunning to my eyes. Can't remember how much it was, but it was just about affordable and I was pleased. This was the deck I wanted, because all the people I knew who were in to hifi wanted one. Everyone I knew talked about it, aspired to it and wanted it. A week later it was delivered to my house and set up with the NAD and 352s. I was following the Linn way, front end first.... don't worry the NAD 3020A will be great!! And it was, for the best part of 10 years. Hahaha, "The Dark Side" These days that's Solidstate and digital. How times change!
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Post by antonio on Jan 30, 2022 22:51:17 GMT
You weren't the only one, the LP12 could sound stunning on certain pieces of music, unfortunately they were the pieces of music you listened to all the time. The Pink Triangle did everything Linn told you the LP12 would do, and should have sold in the numbers of the Linn imo.
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Post by pete on Jan 31, 2022 0:17:02 GMT
You weren't the only one, the LP12 could sound stunning on certain pieces of music, unfortunately they were the pieces of music you listened to all the time. The Pink Triangle did everything Linn told you the LP12 would do, and should have sold in the numbers of the Linn imo. You completely hit the nail on the head there. Instead of listening to what you wanted to, it could become fatiguing, or disappointing and had to go back to the good sounding stuff to check that the stylus was ok, or something had not gone wrong with the set up.
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Post by antonio on Jan 31, 2022 6:51:57 GMT
I'm not just a pretty face Pete
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 31, 2022 7:23:41 GMT
I never got into the Linn Naim Flat Earth dark side.
I remember going to a Naim dem, they played the rhythmic rock thing and it sounded fabulous. I was reaching for my credit card but I then asked the dem guy to play some classical and the sound just fell apart, it was literally laughable. I could hear exactly how the sound was being manipulated to make rock music sound impressive. It made a concert grand piano sound remarkably like a honky tonk upright. The frequency response was all over the place, but dynamic and imaging colourations were obvious, too.
So, yes, absolutely it took you down the road of a very specific genre and some other types of music just didn't work at all.
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Post by pete on Jan 31, 2022 9:15:05 GMT
I'm not just a pretty face Pete
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Post by pete on Feb 1, 2022 22:33:06 GMT
Now, if you have gone to the 'dark' side with a LP12, where else is there for you to go.
Do you return or go further, and further down the seductive path.
Heady on the the influence of hifi shows and linn demos, in a weak moment I was distracted by an advert in Radfords window. Ex-dem equipment for sale. I had to investigate so in I went. Within no time I was listening to Naim 90/92. through a pair of Intros. Sounding pretty good I thought. Loads of detail, lots of life and another salesman hopping from one foot to the other. the sound was too much for him, he just couldn't keep still. It was a live sound, great with my sony cd player. I had not mentioned this before, but think I must had picked it up in 1986, Sony CDP something or other. It was convenient, and the future of music. I had started to buy the odd CD for about double the price of vinyl. The cheapest place was a Radio Rentals - remember them. I just checked the price on Kiss me, Kiss me, kiss me, by The Cure. It was £11-99. in 1987. I see my vinyl version, with the orange vinyl bonus 12" can now go for up to £200!
back to the system... the black Intros have generally been described as coffins, but I continued to enjoy the music. Second hand vinyl was cheap in the early 2000s, new vinyl was expensive, but I still bought it!
I was now at an early 2000s peak system of LP12, Naim 90/92, Naim Intros. Only to be bettered a few years later with a Naim Flatcap power supply, all piled onto my target rack. All was great, for a few years, then I needed a new cartridge.
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Post by pete on Feb 3, 2022 20:45:14 GMT
I thought the mention of Naim in the last post might encourage some love for the brand!!
Anyone
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 3, 2022 22:18:19 GMT
I thought the mention of Naim in the last post might encourage some love for the brand!! Anyone Tough crowd, Pete. Naim isn't a brand that seems to be popular here, unless you nip over to Pink Fish Media. It's mega popular there.
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Post by pete on Feb 3, 2022 23:33:24 GMT
I thought the mention of Naim in the last post might encourage some love for the brand!! Anyone Tough crowd, Pete. Naim isn't a brand that seems to be popular here, unless you nip over to Pink Fish Media. It's mega popular there. Haha, my comment was with tongue firmly in cheek, , I have picked up on 'one or two' comments on here along the way. Don't think I will be trying to sell my Naim stuff on AA!!
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Post by antonio on Feb 4, 2022 0:26:06 GMT
Pete, are you being enticed into listening to other brands when you forums?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 7:06:35 GMT
Never knowingly heard Linn or Naïm. My personal HiFi journey is probably a lot more modest, as I have been blissfully ignorant in the past, having other priorities for my cash.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 4, 2022 7:13:52 GMT
Tough crowd, Pete. Naim isn't a brand that seems to be popular here, unless you nip over to Pink Fish Media. It's mega popular there. Haha, my comment was with tongue firmly in cheek, , I have picked up on 'one or two' comments on here along the way. Don't think I will be trying to sell my Naim stuff on AA!! I would list it here anyway. We had someone join specifically to buy some bits off a member, so the same could happen again.
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Post by pete on Feb 4, 2022 9:41:12 GMT
Pete, are you being enticed into listening to other brands when you forums? Yes, it is all a journey of discovery. We can't listen to everything so we are always going to be guided by things people say. I have heard enough different brands and equipment over past months and years to decide it is time to take a different route in my journey and so the Naim kit will be going up for sale soon.
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Post by antonio on Feb 4, 2022 12:05:39 GMT
Sorry missed out the word 'read', my fingers are not as fast as my brain, not much is really My Naim kit was stolen in transit from the uk to Thailand, that's one way to get rid of it, have you got anything in mind or would you rather keep it under your hat at present?
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Post by pete on Feb 4, 2022 13:26:42 GMT
Sorry missed out the word 'read', my fingers are not as fast as my brain, not much is really My Naim kit was stolen in transit from the uk to Thailand, that's one way to get rid of it, have you got anything in mind or would you rather keep it under your hat at present? HaHa, can think of a few who would arrange for it to disappear! Yep , I have a few in mind and will talk about it on here. I am thinking I want to jump to the future, but I am enjoying thinking about what got me to here in my audio life. Great bunch of people on AA!
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Post by pete on Feb 7, 2022 18:10:12 GMT
At the start of the noughties I didn't realise that it was peak time for buying second hand vinyl. Who would have thought that it would rise again as the media of audiophile choice, or at least something that looks good on the wall. Even though I bought some great stuff second hand then, I think back to all the other great bargains that I passed on. I remember a complete collection of 70s Pink Floyd, in excellent condition for £20. I bagged a mint first press of Stand Up by Jethro Tull, with the pop up sleeve, for a couple of quid. Beatles vinyl was always collectable, but I rarely paid in more that £10 for rarities. When I look at the value of stuff from the 80s that was pence then, now is £20-£30. Second hand bargains are still to be found, but then, everything was a bargain. Looking at pressings from the late 90s and early 2000, they are massive money now. I ended up selling all my early Oasis, because the sound quality was so poor, and I didn't listen to them, for a stupid amount of money.
I was mainly focussing on listening to music and enjoying, after a tough day at work. By 2010 a mate of mine had been having a conversation about Jukeboxes with me, one night after too many beers... ! What resulted was both of us travelling up the M5, in his knackered van, to collect the Bal Ami G80, in need of restoration. We hadn't though how heavy a 1950s Jukebox is. The bloke selling it pleaded injury, so Mike and I did our best, but it was stupid heavy. That group of young lads could never of dreamed that they would be shouted at by some mad bloke to come and help lift a massive jukebox into his van. I couldn't believe that they just joined in and had a go. After no injured fingers (unbelievable) and only a few bashes of shins it was hauled into the back of his van to rest comfortably, on a blanket, for the journey home. And when I got it home, with the help of a couple of neighbours, we got it into the house - I quickly discovered the casters were knackered. So there it was, sitting quietly, just being a light, when the wife came home!! Couldn't really disguise it.
Over months I got to understand the manual and got my self organised to get it working. Rewiring and cleaning ensued, I had a go at coaxing all of it to life, but passed the valve amp onto some guy to have a go at. He was amazing, bringing this rusty 1955 hulk back to full value gloriousness. After 6 months is was all back together. Not looking mint, but looking the best part of 60 years old, with 60 years of patination, just like it should be. Fantastic thing. On the front, across the glass, it shouts 'Multi Horn Hi-fidelity' in red lettering. It has horn speakers, and in its day, it was the pinnacle of hi-fidelity. It goes bloody loud, from about a 20W amp, and it sounds amazing.
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Post by antonio on Feb 8, 2022 1:38:25 GMT
Great post Pete, Jukebox, any chance of a pic Can't fault your vinyl purchases, Pink Floyd and Jethro Tull.
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