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Post by hifinutt on Nov 7, 2021 17:50:09 GMT
Big fan of magico speakers
anyone else got any or enjoy them ?
these are the s1 mark 2
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Post by misterc on Nov 7, 2021 18:10:18 GMT
Seriously Phil really?, the S series I find virtually unlistebale unless you slug the sound with something reallly warm recently took a pair of s5's considering the cost, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by jandl100 on Nov 8, 2021 4:33:25 GMT
Whoops, if you're only looking for fanboy responses I guess I shouldn't reply.
Mind you, I've only heard them at shows, but nothing I heard made me put them on my Want List.
But many folks do seem to love them .... many possible reasons for that, of course.... Horses for courses, synergy, hearing problems, brain damage.
Hee hee. Only kidding. If they do it for you, great!
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Post by macca on Nov 8, 2021 8:05:01 GMT
never heard any but they look to be well-engineered which you'd hope so for the price.
I see they used the old show demo trick of playing a recording with a ton of artificial reverb and no bass.
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Post by Bigman80 on Nov 8, 2021 9:07:59 GMT
They sound mighty thin on that recording to me.
I smells "listener fatigue"
Could be wrong as it's only a video 📸
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Post by macca on Nov 8, 2021 9:49:26 GMT
I don't know since they took the precaution of not playing something with bass.
Don't know how they measure but other Magicos are all impressively flat except for roll off at the very top end.
it's only a small two-way sealed box, it's never going to have impressive bass, and with it being a two-way anything with a lot of bass will screw up the mid-range.
If I had twenty grand to spend on speakers it wouldn't be on my short list. Or even my long list.
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Post by Bigman80 on Nov 8, 2021 10:05:27 GMT
I don't know since they took the precaution of not playing something with bass. Don't know how they measure but other Magicos are all impressively flat except for roll off at the very top end. it's only a small two-way sealed box, it's never going to have impressive bass, and with it being a two-way anything with a lot of bass will screw up the mid-range. If I had twenty grand to spend on speakers it wouldn't be on my short list. Or even my long list. Yup, I'm with you there. |
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Post by macca on Nov 8, 2021 10:31:53 GMT
I suppose they are American speakers and Americans tend to see adding at least a couple of subwoofers to any speaker system as mandatory so I suppose in that context they would work, but then you've got the cost of the subs on top of the £20K for the speakers.
The 'bang for buck' with these sort of speakers just doesn't work for me. Like that show I went to where they had the JBL 4365. At £10K they were cheaper than almost every other speaker at the show but they embarrassed all of them in every respect. It wasn't even close. Why would you pay more for less?
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Post by Bigman80 on Nov 8, 2021 11:07:51 GMT
I suppose they are American speakers and Americans tend to see adding at least a couple of subwoofers to any speaker system as mandatory so I suppose in that context they would work, but then you've got the cost of the subs on top of the £20K for the speakers. The 'bang for buck' with these sort of speakers just doesn't work for me. Like that show I went to where they had the JBL 4365. At £10K they were cheaper than almost every other speaker at the show but they embarrassed all of them in every respect. It wasn't even close. Why would you pay more for less? Pride of ownership. I'm always surprised by what people buy. |
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Post by macca on Nov 8, 2021 11:48:27 GMT
with respect to loudspeakers, yes, so am I.
Seems lots of people are still very influenced by what the magazines, Youtube influencers and dealers have to say. And that price = performance is a given.
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Post by jandl100 on Nov 8, 2021 12:01:08 GMT
I find the whole topic of "dream speakers" to be a fascinating one.
I've achieved my own dream. And I've heard a few systems where the owners feel the same way.
It's totally astonishing how different they all are from each other!
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Post by macca on Nov 8, 2021 12:12:31 GMT
People look to achieve different things I suppose.
Plenty of people whose dream speaker is the LS3/5a
As with many things the idea is as important as the reality.
I'm pretty happy with where I got to. Sometimes wish the bass would go a bit deeper but that's only on some music.
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Post by Bigman80 on Nov 8, 2021 13:25:55 GMT
with respect to loudspeakers, yes, so am I. Seems lots of people are still very influenced by what the magazines, Youtube influencers and dealers have to say. And that price = performance is a given. A lot of people (expectedly so) do not understand what they are buying. I've seen this so often in this hobby that I am no longer surprised by it's frequency. There's a lust for something that takes the eye and they are swept off their feet in a wave of stimulus. I have done that myself, but nowadays I try to look at things more objectively and with a clearer understanding of what I'm looking at. I get a lot of help with that. HiFi is dangerous lol |
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Post by macca on Nov 8, 2021 13:44:01 GMT
yes - I was lucky in that by the time I had money to burn on hi-fi I'd already learned enough to know how to avoid doing that.
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Post by sq225917 on Nov 8, 2021 21:48:56 GMT
I've heard a couple of pairs at length, original mini's, the floorstaing v2 and v3. They were all capable of astonishing resolution. They all needed huge wattage up them though to get them going and floorstanders could be bland beyond belief at low levels in a small room.
Defo speakers for 5m plus room and 500 Watts.
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Post by antonio on Nov 9, 2021 0:03:28 GMT
Never heard the S1's, but I do recall Derek Jenkins (RIP) telling me he enjoyed the mk.1 version, I've heard the 3 and the 5's, preferred the mk.1 versions also. Magico's are extremely impressive for the first 10 minutes, then you want to get out of the room pretty damn quick, they are just too much. Valves maybe a good match for them, always thought Acoustic Research and Wilson speakers were a good match, but YG speakers are a different kettle of fish, enjoyed them every time I've heard them.
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Post by hifinutt on Nov 10, 2021 15:56:37 GMT
so definately not a popular speaker on audioaddicts !!!
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Post by macca on Nov 10, 2021 16:16:50 GMT
Just not good value for money, that's my only criticism.
if I won the lottery or something I'd certainly have a listen to the big ones on my world tour of speaker auditioning.
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Post by macca on Nov 20, 2021 13:55:26 GMT
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Post by misterc on Nov 20, 2021 16:10:59 GMT
Who Owns Stereophile and is one of Tricky Dickie's biggest bitches...........................................Paul Miller I thank you
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Post by macca on Nov 20, 2021 22:27:53 GMT
never knew he was connected with it but he does seem to be director of the parent company and one of his other companies has a significant shareholding.
Not sure he'd be that hands on though. I thought they all voted on the winners? That's what they say anyway.
Maybe you're right. It is hi-fi after all.
Like they say about academia, the reason it's so cutthroat is because the stakes are so low
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