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Post by misterc on Nov 6, 2021 14:20:14 GMT
Now in stock the SR Purple fuses!
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Post by rexton on Nov 6, 2021 17:05:32 GMT
What are your thoughts on if they make a difference..?
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Post by electronumpty on Nov 6, 2021 17:39:01 GMT
For Goth systems,natch 👾
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Post by misterc on Nov 6, 2021 17:43:58 GMT
At the moment I've built a rig to burn them in on the cable machine will let you on Wedensday what I feel.
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Post by rexton on Nov 7, 2021 12:47:00 GMT
At the moment I've built a rig to burn them in on the cable machine will let you on Wedensday what I feel. Good! This should be interesting. |
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Post by pete on Apr 12, 2022 23:29:52 GMT
What were your thoughts on these Tony?
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Post by misterc on Apr 13, 2022 8:06:26 GMT
Hello Pete
With this Purple variety (Dermot Gavin eat your heart out lol) I find them a tale of two halves, if you have stock (un modified equipment) and your looking for that wow factor then these deliver very well. Increased detail and staging are the big winners here over the Orange version.
I did spend a couple of weeks throughly accessing their nature, in my system I perfer Orange's ( a few reasons for that).
Have listened to many customers system's with this model in power amp mains cables, dac and transports all have been very pleased with the results.
One Purple resides in my own system and that feeds the dc rail to the FPGA's in the Wadia (it has a Coherent QP-3 inside).
A few instances it has really raised the SQ in smaller systems which did surprise me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 8:08:21 GMT
Do these meet the relevant safety standards yet?
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Post by misterc on Apr 13, 2022 8:59:57 GMT
Hello Kevin,
I believe this has been covered before elsewhere.
However ALL of the Synergistic Fuses are fully CE complient
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 9:18:30 GMT
That is why I asked the question, as it is impossible to find on the SR Website.
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Post by misterc on Apr 13, 2022 9:26:04 GMT
That is why I asked the question, as it is impossible to find on the SR Website.
The distributor has the paperwork relating to the CE certification here in the UK, your French distributor will have the same relevant information you can ask to see Kevin
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Post by macca on Apr 13, 2022 9:47:04 GMT
Not sure that CE is relevant here, the fuse needs to conform to BS1362 to be used in UK-based applications.
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Post by misterc on Apr 13, 2022 10:43:15 GMT
Martin The new stanard is UKCA which was brought in to take over from CE (post brexit ted tape excerise) there are CE standards that are directly related and eqivlent to BS acceditation (and now UKCA for the UK) CE equivlent standards are accepted during the transistion period (and beyond). BS1362 is purely related to the UK mains fuse size which is 25mm x 6mm and BS1363 relates to the UK plug standards and cable & IEC plug assembly there after covering both sealed and rewireable IEC & UK wall standard plugs Both of these also carry a CE (Now UKCA standard approval)
Some relevant reading for you Martin
The international application of standards
One of the effects of the drive to produce standards for the CE mark directives has been an almost total halt to national standards writing activities and all electrical products are nowadays tested to international standards which are technically equivalent in France, Germany, Scandinavia, Italy and the rest of Europe. In order to make this system work, the participating countries have also had to devise schemes of accreditation to ensure that test house results obtained in one country are acceptable in another, and so a Europe wide system of accreditation for such test authorities has been developed. Test houses recognised by the national scheme for their respective country are ‘notified’ to the European Commission and all governments within the EU are bound to accept their test results.
Because the test criteria are identical in each country, there are several schemes which allow test results to be transferred from one country to another. Thus a series of test results obtained by BSi may be presented to VDE who will, on payment of the appropriate fee, permit their own type approval mark to be placed on the product without actually performing any testing themselves. Apart from the ‘CB’ and ‘CCA’ test schemes which are used by many of the ‘national’ testing bodies, other test houses may enter into agreements with counterparts in other countries so as to recognise each other’s test result. Examples are Rowland and AMTAC in the UK who have arrangements with branches of TÜV in Germany, and BSi Testing whose laboratory in Hemel Hempstead (England) is recognised by the Canadian Standards Authority (CSA) .
Beyond Europe there are wider ranging agreements falling into place. Australia and New Zealand recently entered into an agreement which will involve bringing their two standards writing bodies closer together, and an agreement between the UK’s test house accreditation service (UKAS) and their Australian equivalent (NATA) now allows products for sale in Australia (where type testing is mandatory on a much wider ranger of products than in Europe) to be tested in the UK.
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Post by macca on Apr 13, 2022 11:12:34 GMT
Sorry I don't see that there is a relationship between the two in this specific case. UK has different electrical mains supply system to the rest of Europe therefore BS1362 is still a requirement for any plug, socket or fuse to be legally used in UK as per the Plugs & Sockets etc (Safety) Regulations Act 1994.
CE certification does not supervene that as far as I am aware.
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Post by misterc on Apr 13, 2022 15:38:03 GMT
Martin
CE certification is a specific SET OF TESTING STANDARDS for virtually all products that are sold legally here in the UK (And still will be as the standards houses in various territories have to agree a basic standard for each product determined by which market they are used and whether they are battery, mains or steam powered etc)
The UK mains fuses are tested to the same safety standards as are the 5 x 20mm and 6 x 32mm non UK fuses are in relation to not just electrical & material properties as well as size, correct fitting in the fuse holders etc.
The difference being that the the UK mains plug MUST have a UK standard (6m x 25mm) upto 13A @ 240Vac max fuse fitted when sold taking aside the dimensions of the plug.
The UK plug techincally cannot be CE marked as its not fit for type approval (self certification home mains cable people take note) However, abolsutely nothing to stop a company or individual presenting ANY product for CE testing whether safety or LDV or Cisper regulations. Providing it passes then you can incorporate the test results in your build manual for your legal team to go over before rleasing the product to market.
Fuses testing has a specificed set of parameters no matter what the fuse size or type regardless of the enclosure (*unless integral to that device*)
The fuse works the same inside a UK mains plugs as it does in a amplifier back panel as in that it is designed to protect the appliance it is fitted to.
The testing procedures are damn rigious and legally binding within the remit of that particular product.
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Post by misterc on Apr 13, 2022 16:11:29 GMT
Following on from Martin question, I have just spoken to a BSI testing house on this issue, the fuse itself it not seen as a whole product but as a component and therefore is not applicable to BSI or CE standards unless it is part of a whole product IE: the whole plug or cable assembly is submitted for testing. Although I was informed that the fuse would be manufactured to an EN standard. The only BS/CE standard would be RoHS also to the packaging and ESD design critera
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 17:25:14 GMT
I have e-mailed the distributor, and I am still waiting for feedback.
From what I have read elsewhere, these seem to be modified standard fuses? Not sure that is the case for this particular variety, but I was amazed, as it must be tricky to modify the fuse. It was also interesting to see that they have nickel plated brass caps, but that may be standard for all fuses.
I was just surprised that there is no marking, as the Eska fuses I use have EN or DIN standards marked on the box.
Anyway, which flavour fuse suits what bit of equipment best?
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Post by sq225917 on Apr 13, 2022 17:28:48 GMT
No doubt with all that test gear on hand you'll easily find a measurable difference somewhere in the chain.
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Post by edward on Apr 13, 2022 18:23:43 GMT
Tony, does the SR purple fuse come in a T4AH250V form factor? Cost?
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Post by misterc on Apr 13, 2022 19:09:36 GMT
No doubt with all that test gear on hand you'll easily find a measurable difference somewhere in the chain. Moi? Simon you think so. Must admit I have never ventured there |
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Post by sq225917 on Apr 13, 2022 20:50:41 GMT
I suspect the indefinable difference they provide will defeat measurements.
Unless weighing of wallets takes place...
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