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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 3, 2020 8:28:57 GMT
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Post by macca on Aug 3, 2020 10:31:16 GMT
A Krell couldn't drive them properly? That's got to be a first!
Never heard any of them. Yank brand I think. No limit to the hi-fi craziness that side of the pond.
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Post by mikeyb on Aug 3, 2020 10:46:36 GMT
They're rubbish 😉
"............ Runs off to stick a cheeky bid on them" only kidding, look cool, I bet they're excellent with the right amp.
One of Colins (Wonfor) M100s would drive them pretty good I think.
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Post by antonio on Aug 3, 2020 12:03:57 GMT
We went for a dem of them many years ago at the Sounds of Music, the owner of the shop was the designer, and he also designed the Lumley Statospere tt. Can't remember his name, but they are fine sounding speakers.
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 3, 2020 12:05:24 GMT
A Krell couldn't drive them properly? That's got to be a first! Never heard any of them. Yank brand I think. No limit to the hi-fi craziness that side of the pond. I think they are UK in all honesty, but can't find too much on them. Jerry stuck a bit on AoS about them but other than that, it's a secret, very well kept |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 3, 2020 12:06:12 GMT
We went for a dem of them many years ago at the Sounds of Music, the owner of the shop was the designer, and he also designed the Lumley Statospere tt. Can't remember his name, but they are fine sounding speakers. Bravo, Dave! Was it that model? The 300, or the massive ones? |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 3, 2020 12:08:34 GMT
They're rubbish 😉 "............ Runs off to stick a cheeky bid on them" only kidding, look cool, I bet they're excellent with the right amp. One of Colins (Wonfor) M100s would drive them pretty good I think. Hahahaha, Hmmm, I am well intrigued by them. The 686 certainly would get them going after the PSU change, so I'm not concerned about that. They do look interesting |
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Post by mikeyb on Aug 3, 2020 13:06:12 GMT
I'm sure I've read about these speakers somewhere but can't think where. I'm wondering if it was in a US magazine that I read the pdf of on issuu.
If I get time tonight I'll do some research for you.
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Post by mikeyb on Aug 3, 2020 13:11:12 GMT
Used pair of 200's for sale at Bigearsaudio back in 2008  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 3, 2020 13:12:33 GMT
Used pair of 200's for sale at Bigearsaudio back in 2008 £1250 back then.....these are looking more and more tempting |
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Post by mikeyb on Aug 3, 2020 13:13:08 GMT
You can tell I'm bored at work 😂  |
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Post by mikeyb on Aug 3, 2020 13:14:30 GMT
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Post by mikeyb on Aug 3, 2020 13:18:05 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 3, 2020 13:31:55 GMT
Look at you Mikey!! This Is a new level of thorough lol |
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Post by macca on Aug 3, 2020 13:49:17 GMT
A Krell couldn't drive them properly? That's got to be a first! Never heard any of them. Yank brand I think. No limit to the hi-fi craziness that side of the pond. I think they are UK in all honesty, but can't find too much on them. Jerry stuck a bit on AoS about them but other than that, it's a secret, very well kept You're right they were UK. They just look like American speakers. |
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Post by mikeyb on Aug 3, 2020 15:00:48 GMT
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Post by macca on Aug 3, 2020 15:28:48 GMT
So Paul RFC had some way back when.
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 3, 2020 15:42:22 GMT
So.... good, as long as you don't sit too closely and position them correctly.
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Post by mikeyb on Aug 3, 2020 16:40:07 GMT
So.... good, as long as you don't sit too closely and position them correctly. Need a large room ? |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 3, 2020 16:43:45 GMT
So.... good, as long as you don't sit too closely and position them correctly. Need a large room ? RFCs post suggests that you'd be good around 2-3m away, with toe in to remove phase shifts, which only become audible if sitting off axis. Also says they are very good speakers. I think they are probably pretty useful beasts |
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Post by jandl100 on Aug 3, 2020 16:45:29 GMT
Yes, UK - John Jeffries, Sound of Music. His Lumley valve amps were pretty good. I had his M120 monoblocks as my 2nd ever valve amps - very solid, good sound. JJ was/is "a bit of a lad". Well dodgy at times!  His speaker designs pretty much changed by the week with different drivers going in. He was into mid and/or treble ribbon drivers for a while but I think eventually settled on cones&domes as sounding best. I've heard a few Lumley speakers, some were very coloured others pretty good. Don't think I've heard the biggies like in the OP. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 3, 2020 17:07:31 GMT
Yes, UK - John Jeffries, Sound of Music. His Lumley valve amps were pretty good. I had his M120 monoblocks as my 2nd ever valve amps - very solid, good sound. JJ was/is "a bit of a lad". Well dodgy at times! His speaker designs pretty much changed by the week with different drivers going in. He was into mid and/or treble ribbon drivers for a while but I think eventually settled on cones&domes as sounding best. I've heard a few Lumley speakers, some were very coloured others pretty good. Don't think I've heard the biggies like in the OP. By all accounts of him, retold by others ofc, he was a bit of a "lad" lol However, it's usually those types that do all the good stuff. Did you hear the 300's? |
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Post by jandl100 on Aug 3, 2020 18:11:50 GMT
Did you hear the 300's?
I can't recall model numbers, it was decades ago. There was a big range, going from quite small to very large. But I'm sure I heard something very similar to the 300, -- err, best avoided. What I heard was quite congested and coloured. They tended to get better as they got bigger iirc. But the sound changed a lot as he tinkered with the designs. Some were lemons, others weren't.
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Post by jandl100 on Aug 3, 2020 18:22:02 GMT
actually, looking again at that ebay listing they're bigger [and probably better] than I thought - I'd take the seller up on the offer of a dem before parting with 1k, though.
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 3, 2020 19:27:04 GMT
actually, looking again at that ebay listing they're bigger [and probably better] than I thought - I'd take the seller up on the offer of a dem before parting with 1k, though. Jerry, your words have been heeded and the curiosity has left... |
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Post by antonio on Aug 4, 2020 0:17:39 GMT
Yes, UK - John Jeffries, Sound of Music. His Lumley valve amps were pretty good. I had his M120 monoblocks as my 2nd ever valve amps - very solid, good sound. JJ was/is "a bit of a lad". Well dodgy at times! His speaker designs pretty much changed by the week with different drivers going in. He was into mid and/or treble ribbon drivers for a while but I think eventually settled on cones&domes as sounding best. I've heard a few Lumley speakers, some were very coloured others pretty good. Don't think I've heard the biggies like in the OP. Well remembered Jerry, in fact my brother has just reminded me also of his name. We listened to the 200 and 300's, and I think he also did 400's as well as the Lampro's shown in the op. He was also a distributor for quite a few brands, and sold some pretty expensive gear for the time. |
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Post by mikeyb on Aug 4, 2020 6:44:26 GMT
Did you hear the 300's?I can't recall model numbers, it was decades ago. There was a big range, going from quite small to very large. But I'm sure I heard something very similar to the 300, -- err, best avoided. What I heard was quite congested and coloured. They tended to get better as they got bigger iirc. But the sound changed a lot as he tinkered with the designs. Some were lemons, others weren't. Reading those reviews and comments I found for Oli yesterday gave me the same impression, they look impressive but I think they'd be average at best and a difficult resale if you wanted rid of them. I would avoid too |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 4, 2020 6:48:48 GMT
Did you hear the 300's?I can't recall model numbers, it was decades ago. There was a big range, going from quite small to very large. But I'm sure I heard something very similar to the 300, -- err, best avoided. What I heard was quite congested and coloured. They tended to get better as they got bigger iirc. But the sound changed a lot as he tinkered with the designs. Some were lemons, others weren't. Reading those reviews and comments I found for Oli yesterday gave me the same impression, they look impressive but I think they'd be average at best and a difficult resale if you wanted rid of them. I would avoid too I agree lol They look interesting but ye, I thought they may a bit odd lol |
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Post by mikeyb on Aug 4, 2020 6:50:04 GMT
Reading those reviews and comments I found for Oli yesterday gave me the same impression, they look impressive but I think they'd be average at best and a difficult resale if you wanted rid of them. I would avoid too I agree lol They look interesting but ye, I thought they may a bit odd lol Thing is I think the 300 was the best of a bad bunch, but for that kind of money there are better out there I'm sure. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 4, 2020 7:06:15 GMT
I agree lol They look interesting but ye, I thought they may a bit odd lol Thing is I think the 300 was the best of a bad bunch, but for that kind of money there are better out there I'm sure. Absolutely, and I don't need them. The MS880s kick add so it was just a fleeting moment of wonderment. They would be a great conversation piece though. |
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