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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 12:34:34 GMT
Not going near that Sh#t, my bloody Dumb Phone drives me nuts, how it has not gone out the window is a testament to my patience.
My take on this crap: is it is boring, the twats that have it never listen to a whole song, let alone an album. Jumping from one to another like a fly in a field of Sh#t. It sounds to digital to clinical, I do not care about what bloody resolution it is, my CDP's and spinners sound like real music not like some dissected sound effects. Anyway the music I like was never recorded in Hi-Rez, up sampling be damned you cant make a silk purse out of a Sows ear.
It looks terrible I touch the wrong place on the stupid pad and everything pisses off then I drop my joint and burn a hole in the carpet, all the time swearing because I "were" very deeply in the chill zone.
Not interested, I love looking for the CD for ten minutes only to realise it is in the player in the bedroom, or looking for The Agent Provocateur LP only to find I put in with the Mozart LP's, the last time I listened to it when stoned. I like to sit and listen, read the sleeve notes, and above all listen to an album, not cheery pick tracks because that is what I end up doing every time I have access to that Sh#t. The temptation just seems to kick in.
Not having to battle to read the atrocious hand writing on the home recorded cassette, and figuring out if perhaps this is the one I recorded Dusty In Memphis on, cause the LP is so precious I have it stashed away in the top of the cupboard; would take all the thrill out of finial'y finding it, having a good listen, and a few tears, to one of the best voices ever.
This is very tongue in cheek, not having a dig at those who like it.
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Post by dsjr on Mar 9, 2019 13:15:09 GMT
It varies with the laptop I use and none of them are 'modern,' but I do readily accept your point. If I use the downstairs laptop to access and cast a music file from the upstairs PC to the CA, I get the feeling the up and downstream slows it all down and the older computers can't keep up all the time, although they're fine for internet work generally. If I used the so-called 'main' stereo more often, I'd have done something about it by now, although it's no bother to bring CD's and records to play  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 13:17:35 GMT
Not going near that Sh#t, my bloody Dumb Phone drives me nuts, how it has not gone out the window is a testament to my patience. My take on this crap: is it is boring, the twats that have it never listen to a whole song, let alone an album. Jumping from one to another like a fly in a field of Sh#t. It sounds to digital to clinical, I do not care about what bloody resolution it is, my CDP's and spinners sound like real music not like some dissected sound effects. Anyway the music I like was never recorded in Hi-Rez, up sampling be damned you cant make a silk purse out of a Sows ear. It looks terrible I touch the wrong place on the stupid pad and everything pisses off then I drop my joint and burn a hole in the carpet, all the time swearing because I "were" very deeply in the chill zone. Not interested, I love looking for the CD for ten minutes only to realise it is in the player in the bedroom, or looking for The Agent Provocateur LP only to find I put in with the Mozart LP's, the last time I listened to it when stoned. I like to sit and listen, read the sleeve notes, and above all listen to an album, not cheery pick tracks because that is what I end up doing every time I have access to that Sh#t. The temptation just seems to kick in. Not having to battle to read the atrocious hand writing on the home recorded cassette, and figuring out if perhaps this is the one I recorded Dusty In Memphis on, cause the LP is so precious I have it stashed away in the top of the cupboard; would take all the thrill out of finial'y finding it, having a good listen, and a few tears, to one of the best voices ever. This is very tongue in cheek, not having a dig at those who like it. Don't agree with most of it but it made me chuckle  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 13:34:46 GMT
Did an oil change on my car last afternoon, the bloody filter was so tight it must have been tightened by a Banana Arm Zulu. Had to go with a mate in the traffic (the oil was drained) to look for a tool to get the F#ck off. Eventually we got back it was dark, we went up the road and bought 4 liters of Black Label (Soweto Pepsi) to big packs of crisps and got pissed. By the time we finished it was about 9 p.m. We started at 3.30.
Went to bed with my head spinning, put on the zennies, plugged them into the Teac, put some jazz in the CD on repeat and fell asleep, woke up at six with the cat stroking my face with it's paw and the phones still on my head, without a hangover. Jazz is the "Thing".
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 9, 2019 13:49:03 GMT
Not going near that Sh#t, my bloody Dumb Phone drives me nuts, how it has not gone out the window is a testament to my patience. My take on this crap: is it is boring, the twats that have it never listen to a whole song, let alone an album. Jumping from one to another like a fly in a field of Sh#t. It sounds to digital to clinical, I do not care about what bloody resolution it is, my CDP's and spinners sound like real music not like some dissected sound effects. Anyway the music I like was never recorded in Hi-Rez, up sampling be damned you cant make a silk purse out of a Sows ear. It looks terrible I touch the wrong place on the stupid pad and everything pisses off then I drop my joint and burn a hole in the carpet, all the time swearing because I "were" very deeply in the chill zone. Not interested, I love looking for the CD for ten minutes only to realise it is in the player in the bedroom, or looking for The Agent Provocateur LP only to find I put in with the Mozart LP's, the last time I listened to it when stoned. I like to sit and listen, read the sleeve notes, and above all listen to an album, not cheery pick tracks because that is what I end up doing every time I have access to that Sh#t. The temptation just seems to kick in. Not having to battle to read the atrocious hand writing on the home recorded cassette, and figuring out if perhaps this is the one I recorded Dusty In Memphis on, cause the LP is so precious I have it stashed away in the top of the cupboard; would take all the thrill out of finial'y finding it, having a good listen, and a few tears, to one of the best voices ever. This is very tongue in cheek, not having a dig at those who like it. Don't agree with most of it but it made me chuckle Agree with lost is it and made me chuckle too, horses for source though and if it makes someone happy, I’m pleased for them. I doubt I will ever wnat music without physical media. |
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Post by savvypaul on Mar 9, 2019 15:00:16 GMT
Not going near that Sh#t, my bloody Dumb Phone drives me nuts, how it has not gone out the window is a testament to my patience. My take on this crap: is it is boring, the twats that have it never listen to a whole song, let alone an album. Jumping from one to another like a fly in a field of Sh#t. It sounds to digital to clinical, I do not care about what bloody resolution it is, my CDP's and spinners sound like real music not like some dissected sound effects. Anyway the music I like was never recorded in Hi-Rez, up sampling be damned you cant make a silk purse out of a Sows ear. It looks terrible I touch the wrong place on the stupid pad and everything pisses off then I drop my joint and burn a hole in the carpet, all the time swearing because I "were" very deeply in the chill zone. Not interested, I love looking for the CD for ten minutes only to realise it is in the player in the bedroom, or looking for The Agent Provocateur LP only to find I put in with the Mozart LP's, the last time I listened to it when stoned. I like to sit and listen, read the sleeve notes, and above all listen to an album, not cheery pick tracks because that is what I end up doing every time I have access to that Sh#t. The temptation just seems to kick in. Not having to battle to read the atrocious hand writing on the home recorded cassette, and figuring out if perhaps this is the one I recorded Dusty In Memphis on, cause the LP is so precious I have it stashed away in the top of the cupboard; would take all the thrill out of finial'y finding it, having a good listen, and a few tears, to one of the best voices ever. This is very tongue in cheek, not having a dig at those who like it. Don't agree with most of it but it made me chuckle Ditto! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 17:54:58 GMT
Right read thru all 9 pages of that. I for one cannot be doing with streaming music. However im looking into Lossless playback of my music from External Hard drive.. I spent all this afternoon ripping a few CD's to FLAC, playing them back to the Hi-Fi via High Resolution Technologies streamer. Very happy with the results actually. I did go down & have a look at one of those all in one HP PC's. Which will basically be nothing but a music selector with the aid of say Media Monkey... Soundcard is obviously bypassed by the HRT. The files are kept on my External Hard drive. I will ofc retain my CD playback system in the spare room, this file system is more for convenience. Here is the all in one.. Perfectly ample for the Job. Together with the new Vintage amp should take up very little space. An important factor in the living room. www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-20-c402na-19-5-intel-celeron-all-in-one-pc-1-tb-hdd-white-10181392-pdt.htmlbtw: Andy i got sick to the back teeth of hearing about Raspberry |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 18:52:28 GMT
Right read thru all 9 pages of that. I for one cannot be doing with streaming music. However im looking into Lossless playback of my music from External Hard drive.. I spent all this afternoon ripping a few CD's to FLAC, playing them back to the Hi-Fi via High Resolution Technologies streamer. Very happy with the results actually. I did go down & have a look at one of those all in one HP PC's. Which will basically be nothing but a music selector with the aid of say Media Monkey... Soundcard is obviously bypassed by the HRT. The files are kept on my External Hard drive. I will ofc retain my CD playback system in the spare room, this file system is more for convenience. Here is the all in one.. Perfectly ample for the Job. Together with the new Vintage amp should take up very little space. An important factor in the living room. www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-20-c402na-19-5-intel-celeron-all-in-one-pc-1-tb-hdd-white-10181392-pdt.htmlbtw: Andy i got sick to the back teeth of hearing about Raspberry That's a shame because using one with a NAS gives results. Real results. |
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Post by antonio on May 21, 2019 17:15:24 GMT
Well we've started streaming using a free trial with Tidal, only Premium and not HiFi, going through the dCS app and also Roon which we have a free trial for as well, and I have to say it's all sounding very good. This means the input is no longer USB but ethernet direct from the router. I have been talking to Mark at Item Audio, who has been very helpful I guiding us through this, and it looks like he will be building a NAS/Ripper/Roon Core, this of course will come with its own power supply. This will mean the computer (used to store music from ripped cd's) will be made redundant.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:33:29 GMT
Decided to Take out a Premium Spotify membership, would have preferred Tidal but i aint paying what is required, besides spotty sounds good enough to me. Using SD card for files of album not on there. Jobs a good un, Best thing i ever did. Spotify has a couple of Glitches that i am sure will get ironed out in the long run.. Vinyl & CD are well history with moi..
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Post by antonio on Aug 28, 2019 5:05:23 GMT
Pleased you're enjoying streaming, most of our music is either ripped cd's or Tidal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 10:47:43 GMT
I was however horrified to notice the album by Sunforest was clearly a vinyl rip, i know full well the CD i had was not a vinyl rip, which leads me to worry
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Post by macca on Aug 28, 2019 15:10:50 GMT
That's why I'm happy with my cds. I know exactly what it is I'm listening to. With these streaming services you could be getting any old shite.
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Post by antonio on Aug 28, 2019 16:00:00 GMT
I'd love you to hear streaming on our system and then compare with a cd.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 16:31:34 GMT
I much prefer it to CD tbh. Its less hassle & you know your beloved CD player is not going to be no more because the laser packed up.. The majority of music i listen to is on Spotify but the ones that are not are ripped from CD, the CD's just boxed away which is only a matter of a couple dozen or so. The rest of the CD's available on Spotty have been sold along with the machines.. Im happy & confident that this way of playing music is a solid & reliable way.. If there is any gripe the Spotted one is a fraction toppy but its not nasty, after all it is a lossy format its soon cured with the 'CE-22' i have plumbed in, another thing that an Hi-Fi obsessive would not entertain because its written in the 'YOU MUST NOT DO' Audio rule book.  As a side note Hi-Fi as an Hobby & just listening to music are two different things. The Hi-Fi always gets in the way.. Hobbies take time & dedication so pissing about playing with wires & box swapping & what ever goes with the hobby i no longer have any interest in doing hence convenience is a top priority while gaining a good a sound as possible. |
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Post by macca on Aug 28, 2019 17:24:48 GMT
I'd love you to hear streaming on our system and then compare with a cd. There's no intrinsic sound quality advantage to streaming though. A file is a file, the computer doesn't care where the data comes from. I can play a CD on my laptop or if I can copy it to the hard drive and play it from that, but it is still the same processor crunching the data, same DAC, same analogue output. A lot of the versions of albums on the streaming services are re-mastered, or the playback software jazzes them up a bit, or both. So they may well sound different to the cd version. People forget all that and think they are comparing apples with apples but they're not. |
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Post by antonio on Aug 28, 2019 17:35:31 GMT
So cd transports don't matter then Macca?
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Post by macca on Aug 28, 2019 17:47:34 GMT
Not for any digital reason. A twenty quid DVD player will read a cd just as well as a £20K transport. Lots of other ways to screw up the sound though. Many a slip between the cup and the lip.
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 28, 2019 19:13:20 GMT
So cd transports don't matter then Macca? Oh yes they do. I don’t knacks what factors influence it, but transports make a significant difference |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 19:17:37 GMT
Um not sure about that cos ive never really done much experimenting with em. But i have always found the DAC to influence the sound..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 19:24:40 GMT
Not for any digital reason. A twenty quid DVD player will read a cd just as well as a £20K transport. Lots of other ways to screw up the sound though. Many a slip between the cup and the lip. No,no no. Surely that's not right? |
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Post by macca on Aug 28, 2019 21:37:17 GMT
Not for any digital reason. A twenty quid DVD player will read a cd just as well as a £20K transport. Lots of other ways to screw up the sound though. Many a slip between the cup and the lip. No,no no. Surely that's not right? I'm afraid so. Getting the data off the disc is trivially easy. After that is where you can start having problems. So transports can differ in sound quality but it isn't because one reads the disc better than the other. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 21:43:11 GMT
No,no no. Surely that's not right? I'm afraid so. Getting the data off the disc is trivially easy. After that is where you can start having problems. So transports can differ in sound quality but it isn't because one reads the disc better than the other. Any £10 CD-ROM drive can read a cd, bit perfect at way more than 1x read speed. The only thing I can think that explains the difference in transports is the quality of the digital output, especially SPDIF which is basically a square wave down a cable |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 14:34:39 GMT
Not interested, It spoils my listening experience (not quality wise), and here is my reason, you have the pad on your lap, like a kid in the sweety shop far too many choices, right in front of you, do not have to haul your ass out the chair, don't like this or that, flick, flick. I like to listen to an album from start to finish, old school. Have never found one bloke with a file served set up that can even listen to a whole track let alone an album, if are they still called that btw.
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Post by antonio on Aug 29, 2019 16:14:03 GMT
I cab assure you, we listen to the complete album whether streamed or from our library.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 16:53:36 GMT
 Perhaps being geriatric Luddite does not help.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 15:38:28 GMT
I think im going to switch to Tidal. This Spotify is giving me some right grief.
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Perhaps being geriatric Luddite does not help.