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Post by jandl100 on Mar 19, 2020 12:19:54 GMT
I quite like [not too large] spiders. I've obviously never been to Australia.
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Post by sq225917 on Mar 19, 2020 12:43:12 GMT
Regarding the leedh software volume control, theres simply no way around the math. Whenever you digitise signal level into a number of discrete steps, be iy in 16, 24, 32, 64 or 128 bit, there is rounding error involved. Sure go to enough bits and the steps and the loss becomes minuscule, but it's never lossless, not mathematically speaking.
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Post by electronumpty on Mar 19, 2020 12:59:34 GMT
Rasta spiders, living the bass dream.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 19, 2020 13:04:41 GMT
Rasta spiders, living the bass dream. Deaf rasta spider lol
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Post by firebottle on Mar 19, 2020 13:50:34 GMT
Regarding the leedh software volume control, theres simply no way around the math. Whenever you digitise signal level into a number of discrete steps, be iy in 16, 24, 32, 64 or 128 bit, there is rounding error involved. Sure go to enough bits and the steps and the loss becomes minuscule, but it's never lossless, not mathematically speaking. Yeah I know, according to my understanding of digital algorithms. There are cleverer minds than you or me though (no offense) and some very advanced maths which I could never hope to understand. Would be nice to know how it's done though.
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Post by firebottle on Mar 19, 2020 13:51:15 GMT
Rasta spiders, living the bass dream. I must admit that went through my mind as well, class.
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Post by electronumpty on Mar 19, 2020 14:31:47 GMT
Being spiders they bring a whole new meaning the the phrase "Eye an Eye , Rastastafari"
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Post by macca on Mar 19, 2020 16:05:28 GMT
Jah is with them.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 19, 2020 16:12:32 GMT
Dis the sound change when you removed them? Lol
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Post by hudz on Mar 19, 2020 17:08:10 GMT
Dis the sound change when you removed them? Lol Lose a little body?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 17:39:06 GMT
The sound ran out of steam, it had no legs...
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Post by firebottle on Mar 19, 2020 18:56:17 GMT
Testing the sub, Though to be honest the bass isn't that low on Shabba, only about 80Hz. Have to find something a lot lower, I know 'Hey now' by London Grammar, that's got 32Hz bass ......BASS ...... BASS .....BASS!
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 19, 2020 18:57:22 GMT
Testing the sub, View AttachmentThough to be honest the bass isn't that low on Shabba, only about 80Hz. Have to find something a lot lower, I know 'Hey now' by London Grammar, that's got 32Hz bass ......BASS ...... BASS .....BASS!Maximum Priest... Good grief
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 19:00:40 GMT
Testing the sub, Though to be honest the bass isn't that low on Shabba, only about 80Hz. Have to find something a lot lower, I know 'Hey now' by London Grammar, that's got 32Hz bass ......BASS ...... BASS .....BASS!Maximum Priest... Good grief That is hiding the Milli Vanilli
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 19, 2020 19:24:47 GMT
Maximum Priest... Good grief That is hiding the Milli Vanilli Probably a Jedward LP in the sleeve lol
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Post by sq225917 on Mar 19, 2020 19:31:08 GMT
I know theres loads of very clever people out there, but the maths is immutable, you can make all sorts of clever guesses and interpolate to ones heart content, but it's still guesswork.
And that's why there's no public data on the method, because it wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. One simply cant have a 'lossles'digital volume control, the bit loss is always proportional to word length and level change.
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Post by electronumpty on Mar 19, 2020 20:09:12 GMT
That is hiding the Milli Vanilli Probably a Jedward LP in the sleeve lol Never met Alan , has he got the Jedwood hair?
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Post by firebottle on Mar 19, 2020 20:18:31 GMT
Don't talk cr@p. I like Maxi Priest .............
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Post by electronumpty on Mar 19, 2020 20:55:50 GMT
Me too, if you want something bass deep stick some Bunny Wailer or Burning Spear on .
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 19, 2020 21:53:44 GMT
Don't talk cr@p. I like Maxi Priest ............. Hahaha
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 6:48:41 GMT
Don't talk cr@p. I like Maxi Priest ............. A response in the form of a song..... I always thought this was a catchy tune when it came out....
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Post by firebottle on Mar 20, 2020 10:27:11 GMT
Next project, re-boxing a valve buffer stage. This was boxed up previously as the 'Mad Cow Buffer' but the C core transformer hummed so that and the RCA sockets were used on other things. A smaller transformer was sourced from China, the original C core was over specified anyway. Trannie and on/off switch: The case is one that has been re-purposed (bit of a fannie expression really, it's like Merc dealers saying 'pre-owned' ), so it's off to the workbench.
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Post by firebottle on Mar 20, 2020 15:02:01 GMT
All boxed up and working, x4 gain, that's 12dB.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 20, 2020 15:13:29 GMT
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Post by firebottle on Mar 24, 2020 15:21:32 GMT
Well since fitting the OCC speaker cable to the sub the bass has really fleshed out. I have experienced burn in on capacitors but not experienced it directly with cable. This has really transformed the solidity and punch at the low extremes over the last few days. Well chuffed with the result.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 16:04:59 GMT
You sound very happy with the OCC cable? Is this the graphene stuff that you used?
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Post by firebottle on Mar 24, 2020 16:44:25 GMT
No the sub is a 'cheaper' variety from Audiophonics. Not as good as a full range cable.
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Post by firebottle on Mar 25, 2020 18:00:47 GMT
A while back I bought a Lounge Audio LCR Mk3 phono stage, basically to scratch an itch to hear/have an LCR based phono stage. The only other one I have heard is the Music First LCR designed by Nick Gorham and that is both sublime and exceedingly expensive. However when I tried out the Lounge Audio it just wasn't very good. In fact one of the worst 'out of the box' phono stages I have tried. The bass was distinctive in that there wasn't much of it plus there was a measure of distortion coming through. If I had just bought this to use as was I would not have been happy. Fortunately I can alter things electronic, so I searched for a schematic without result. Back to the 'whip the board out and trace the circuit' principle, takes a little while though. What I found staggered me . Although the discrete LCR network was ostensibly good, designed around the traditional 600 ohm impedance, the drive to it was through a very low value capacitor hence there was a bass drop off to the response. To compensate for this the designer had incorporated a bass boost circuit in the first op-amp stage, wtf? The first stage of a phono stage definitely doesn't want extra bass boost. Once I had removed the boost and fitted a much larger (x50) coupling capacitor things got rather better. However there was still some distortion which I tracked down to the inclusion of current sinks on the op-amp outputs. These were supposedly to make the op-amps work in a fully Class A fashion, but the sound was definitely clearer once these were removed. The overall response was still bass light and I discovered that the supposedly 1.8 Henry choke in the LCR network was in fact a lot closer to 1.2 Henries, not good. Once I have re-engineered the LCR values to level out the response as much as I could the stage performed a lot lot better than originally. The LCR network wasn't a fixed 600 ohms over the full frequency range anymore, but being driven from the low impedance of an op-amp was an acceptable compromise. The tale ends on a high note, I have just sold this and gave it a quick test before packing just to make sure it was OK. The whole audio system has been getting more transparent of late and the reworked Lounge Audio LCR was exceedingly good.
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Post by macca on Mar 26, 2020 8:01:16 GMT
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Post by firebottle on Mar 26, 2020 9:14:26 GMT
Yes, it didn't measure well either did it?
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