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Post by electronumpty on Feb 17, 2020 17:38:16 GMT
All done with bolts cut to size, sorbothane is tricky stuff to cut!
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 17, 2020 18:46:53 GMT
Soon be ready to actually listen to it!
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 17, 2020 18:58:04 GMT
lol yeah, pcb on it's way back to me, can't wait lol🙂
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 19, 2020 14:41:57 GMT
Pcb at post office , hope to pick it up tonight. Drool......
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 19, 2020 16:18:50 GMT
How much do you have left to do?
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 19, 2020 16:38:15 GMT
Assuming it works ok (which I'm sure it will now!) just slot it back in into the case, add the sockets back into the back and connect up/solder the wiring. I'll need to tidy up the wiring routing inside etc and drill some holes in the ply top for the valves and should be good to go
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 19, 2020 16:38:52 GMT
Won't have time to do until the weekend though
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 19, 2020 17:11:15 GMT
Won't have time to do until the weekend though Oh man
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 19, 2020 17:17:00 GMT
Yeah , plus theres the added distraction of the 6 nations....
Might have to sacrifice friday night to the bb !
Still once up and running I can veneer the case at my leisure!
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 19, 2020 20:02:11 GMT
Shot of the gridstoppers added by Alan.
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 19, 2020 22:12:14 GMT
ok so of course I had to hook it up tonight as I I couldn't wait for the weekend lol. No life in the Ecc88 by the looks of it, have swapped the valve out for another and the same. Ideas?
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 19, 2020 22:42:46 GMT
ok so of course I had to hook it up tonight as I I couldn't wait for the weekend lol. No life in the Ecc88 by the looks of it, have swapped the valve out for another and the same. Ideas? Andy, It should be a ECC83 in the middle
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 19, 2020 22:43:07 GMT
oops .....
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 19, 2020 22:55:16 GMT
Wondered why I had one of those lying around ☺ All good now! Think i'll put the plans for rewiring the house on ice ..... Thanks again to Alan lol
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 19, 2020 22:59:43 GMT
Wondered why I had one of those lying around ☺ All good now! Think i'll put the plans for rewiring the house on ice ..... Thanks again to Alan lol Haha Haha, It's all good.
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Post by firebottle on Feb 20, 2020 8:43:18 GMT
Electronumpty by name ....... Get the sockets on (that could be a euphemism for 'get a move on' ) , you need to hear it.
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 20, 2020 10:02:49 GMT
Electronumpty by name ....... Get the sockets on (that could be a euphemism for 'get a move on' ) , you need to hear it. Well I do have reputation to live down to...😄 Hope to have it up and running this weekend.
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 21, 2020 13:22:45 GMT
Socket malarky! 🤔
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 21, 2020 14:34:16 GMT
getting there
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 21, 2020 15:49:41 GMT
Sprouting sockts!
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 21, 2020 17:10:47 GMT
I am haz sounds 😁😁 Need to tidy up the wiring but all seems good🙂 Need another shelf now .
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 21, 2020 17:33:33 GMT
Well done!!!
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 21, 2020 18:05:00 GMT
Thanks ! Feeling quite chuffed , sounds pretty good to!
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 21, 2020 18:43:54 GMT
If anybody is wondering the valves are Mullard Pcc88s and the Ecc83 is a Yugoslav Ei.
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 21, 2020 18:44:18 GMT
If anybody is wondering the valves are Mullard Pcc88s and the Ecc83 is a Yugoslav Ei. How's it sounding? Just seen the above post.
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 21, 2020 19:06:00 GMT
If anybody is wondering the valves are Mullard Pcc88s and the Ecc83 is a Yugoslav Ei. How's it sounding? Just seen the above post. Pretty good now I've got the right valves in .... 😆😆
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 21, 2020 19:07:22 GMT
I'll post some 1st impressions in a while, but can't stop grinning. 🙂
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 21, 2020 20:48:23 GMT
I'll post some 1st impressions in a while, but can't stop grinning. 🙂 Hahaha, We're waiting....
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Post by electronumpty on Feb 23, 2020 10:30:38 GMT
So some initial impressions of the BB . First caveat is that I cannot compare to any stages costing more than £300 as I have never heard any, second is that my reference is to a Firebottle OTP which I have had for a few years and enjoyed immensely during that time , cost about £220 if I recall correctly.
Also these comments are only after 5/6 hours listening so I imagine there is more to come , but I like listening to kit as it beds in and seeing the difference as the sound develops. 1st thing I noticed was the extension on cymbals, after the hit the decay wwas long and gradual, they really shimmered when listening the Bonzo on Zep 4.
Second immediate standout was the presence and immediacy of the sound , the closest I can describe is almost like a wall of sound. Now this is something that I quite like but took me by surprise. However as things progessed this wall gave way to much more defined detail and nuance but still had that immediacy and presence.
As it played the soundstage became deeper as time went on, very 3D to me, almost made the OTP sound flat, 2D in comparison, it isn’t, but there’s a very noticable difference in depth.
Next was the tone, I don’t have much experience of valve kit but I imagine this is largely down to what ones are being used. Rich and crunchy guitars, natural vocals where you can hear the intake of breath and slight modulations in notes that weren’t there beforehand. Another factor of detail developing.
Bass was slightly recessed at first and the lower registers not really hitting, but I have had this with Mundorf caps before in the DCB1 so wasn’t worried, true to form by the 3rd album it was starting to come on stronger , still a bit to develop I think but its early days.
Playing some Elton John the piano sounds really natural and on tracks like Crocodile Rock the boogie factor really comes through which is great.
As an example of detail, on Zep 4 the more rocky tracks have a great and full guitar sound quite particular to that Zep album. Heard before the 2 channels L and R sound like 2 different guiters playing the same/similar riffs. Now they are, but what I can pick out now is that often they are both in different keys (not a musician but thats the impression I get) and also playing differnt licks and notes to add to the overall effect. Quite complex but not apparent to me so obviously before.
Finally when I say the music has more presence it’s not bloated or forced in any way, it still sounds very natural acros the frequency spectrum.
More soon but very pleased so far , good job Oliver and Alan! Thanks for your help and encouragement in getting this to produce these sounds! 😀😀
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Post by Bigman80 on Feb 23, 2020 10:58:15 GMT
So some initial impressions of the BB . First caveat is that I cannot compare to any stages costing more than £300 as I have never heard any, second is that my reference is to a Firebottle OTP which I have had for a few years and enjoyed immensely during that time , cost about £220 if I recall correctly. Also these comments are only after 5/6 hours listening so I imagine there is more to come , but I like listening to kit as it beds in and seeing the difference as the sound develops. 1st thing I noticed was the extension on cymbals, after the hit the decay wwas long and gradual, they really shimmered when listening the Bonzo on Zep 4. Second immediate standout was the presence and immediacy of the sound , the closest I can describe is almost like a wall of sound. Now this is something that I quite like but took me by surprise. However as things progessed this wall gave way to much more defined detail and nuance but still had that immediacy and presence. As it played the soundstage became deeper as time went on, very 3D to me, almost made the OTP sound flat, 2D in comparison, it isn’t, but there’s a very noticable difference in depth. Next was the tone, I don’t have much experience of valve kit but I imagine this is largely down to what ones are being used. Rich and crunchy guitars, natural vocals where you can hear the intake of breath and slight modulations in notes that weren’t there beforehand. Another factor of detail developing. Bass was slightly recessed at first and the lower registers not really hitting, but I have had this with Mundorf caps before in the DCB1 so wasn’t worried, true to form by the 3rd album it was starting to come on stronger , still a bit to develop I think but its early days. Playing some Elton John the piano sounds really natural and on tracks like Crocodile Rock the boogie factor really comes through which is great. As an example of detail, on Zep 4 the more rocky tracks have a great and full guitar sound quite particular to that Zep album. Heard before the 2 channels L and R sound like 2 different guiters playing the same/similar riffs. Now they are, but what I can pick out now is that often they are both in different keys (not a musician but thats the impression I get) and also playing differnt licks and notes to add to the overall effect. Quite complex but not apparent to me so obviously before. Finally when I say the music has more presence it’s not bloated or forced in any way, it still sounds very natural acros the frequency spectrum. More soon but very pleased so far , good job Oliver and Alan! Thanks for your help and encouragement in getting this to produce these sounds! 😀😀 Well that all sounds very positive! Give the caps time, as you say....
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