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Post by jandl100 on Mar 9, 2021 16:29:39 GMT
You're not wrong - I'm keeping too many amps atm and am running out of space.
I've cleared a shelf in the bedroom for overflow!
Oli's 4 shelf stand would be no use, though, I've nowhere to put it.
2 amps and a DAC on ebay atm, that should help clear a bit of room.
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Post by macca on Mar 9, 2021 17:28:04 GMT
You're not wrong - I'm keeping too many amps atm and am running out of space. I've cleared a shelf in the bedroom for overflow! lol that's how it starts when they start coming in faster than they go out. I've got one bedroom full of equipment and another full of the boxes it all came in. |
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 14, 2021 15:25:45 GMT
Current stack.  Top to bottom ... Khozmo passive pre (arrived a few days ago) Holo Audio Spring Level 2 R-2R DAC (arrived today) PrimaLuna Prologue 5 (been around for well over a year now) fitted with a quad of GE USA 6L6 and TAD input tubes. All sounding rather good. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 14, 2021 15:26:24 GMT
Current stack. Top to bottom ... Khozmo passive pre (arrived a few days ago) Holo Audio Spring Level 2 R-2R DAC (arrived today) PrimaLuna Prologue 5 (been around for well over a year now) fitted with a quad of GE USA 6L6 and TAD input tubes. All sounding rather good. How is the DAC? That has been on my radar for a while now. Particularly the "May" |
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 14, 2021 15:56:16 GMT
I'm beginning to suspect that the DAC is sufficiently far ahead of any I've previously heard that it's going to take a while to get my head round it.
It's only been plumbed in a couple of hours, and maybe it needed warming up, or maybe I'm having to learn how to listen to what it does, but it becomes more and more fascinating as time goes by.
It's a good'un.
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 14, 2021 16:59:57 GMT
I'm beginning to suspect that the DAC is sufficiently far ahead of any I've previously heard that it's going to take a while to get my head round it. It's only been plumbed in a couple of hours, and maybe it needed warming up, or maybe I'm having to learn how to listen to what it does, but it becomes more and more fascinating as time goes by. It's a good'un. Before you flog it, give me a heads up.... |
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 14, 2021 17:04:29 GMT
Flog it? Me?  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 14, 2021 17:18:12 GMT
Flog it? Me? Hahaha... unthinkable! |
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Post by antonio on Apr 15, 2021 1:28:50 GMT
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 15, 2021 5:29:58 GMT
Yes, the Holo DAC (I keep thinking of the Holo Deck in Star Trek TNG!) was the one very recently on ebay, auction ended last Sunday, iirc.
Some more listening hours on it now and I am increasingly impressed with it. It's way beyond any DAC I've heard before.
Previous systems hadn't noticeably struck me as having a thinned out soundstage, but with the Holo the whole presentation is more solid and grounded. More resolution, too, but not explicitly thrown at me, but just there for me to focus on if I want. Rustling of music scores as pages are turned and the slight creaking of chairs as musicians move on very familiar recordings, where tf did they come from?!
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 15, 2021 6:25:28 GMT
£397? Bloody hell that was cheap! |
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 15, 2021 6:27:10 GMT
Yes, the Holo DAC (I keep thinking of the Holo Deck in Star Trek TNG!) was the one very recently on ebay, auction ended last Sunday, iirc. Some more listening hours on it now and I am increasingly impressed with it. It's way beyond any DAC I've heard before. Previous systems hadn't noticeably struck me as having a thinned out soundstage, but with the Holo the whole presentation is more solid and grounded. More resolution, too, but not explicitly thrown at me, but just there for me to focus on if I want. Rustling of music scores as pages are turned and the slight creaking of chairs as musicians move on very familiar recordings, where tf did they come from?! Yes....those are the little nuggets of information that start to creep out of really good kit. Great isn't it. Sounds like a winner! |
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Post by antonio on Apr 15, 2021 10:54:36 GMT
I saw someone reviewing the Holo Springs May dac, sorry Jerry it's the model above yours, and was very impressed with the sound stage, never hearing it's like before.
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 15, 2021 12:43:54 GMT
No worries, my one gets good reviews, too.  Must admit, a Holo May early next year seems a tempting idea! |
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 22, 2021 6:55:22 GMT
On their way to me today, hopefully get them tomorrow  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 22, 2021 7:15:50 GMT
On their way to me today, hopefully get them tomorrow Fantastic find Jerry That's a lot of amplification for the money. Looking forward to your thoughts on them |
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Post by macca on Apr 22, 2021 8:03:56 GMT
What are they? Pic is too small to read the logo.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 12:21:02 GMT
Primaluna prologue seven?
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 22, 2021 15:23:18 GMT
Correct - PLP7
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Post by stevew on Apr 22, 2021 17:37:02 GMT
On their way to me today, hopefully get them tomorrow Oo...er. I’ve been eyeing up the prologue 5, so will be fascinated to hear how these compare. |
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 22, 2021 18:51:01 GMT
On their way to me today, hopefully get them tomorrow Oo...er. I’ve been eyeing up the prologue 5, so will be fascinated to hear how these compare. I might have a 5 for sale soon. |
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Post by robbiegong on Apr 22, 2021 19:33:17 GMT
Nice one Jerry ! every time I read about these, it's said there are no faults with them, and if that's not high praise then I dont know what is  |
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Post by stevew on Apr 22, 2021 19:47:59 GMT
Oo...er. I’ve been eyeing up the prologue 5, so will be fascinated to hear how these compare. I might have a 5 for sale soon. Oooh, give us a shout. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Apr 22, 2021 19:54:54 GMT
I might have a 5 for sale soon. Oooh, give us a shout. They are good amps Steve. |
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Post by antonio on Apr 23, 2021 1:40:38 GMT
I remember hearing Prima Luna for the first time at a show when Absolute Sounds were the distributor (they don't appear to do the brand any longer), came away impressed. That was at a time when I really preferred ss amps, yet these days I keep looking at valves, must be an age thing. Hope you like them Jerry.
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 25, 2021 6:31:31 GMT
And the PL 7 Monos have arrived. 1st attempt at plumbing them in. Didn't really work for me aesthetically. And not very convenient for accessing rear connections.  Re-arranged and ready for valve rolling, with my back-up solid state amp ready for action in case of a heatwave....  I knew they came with a fairly recent new set of KT88 power valves but didn't know what make. Bit of a disappointment when they turned out to be PL's own rebrand! .... but quite surprised how good they sounded. The Monos with PL rebrands were obviously better in some ways than the old 5 Stereo with my choice of valves. Maybe I just make bad choices. Then again I never got round to trying the 5 with KT88. ... so many variables, that's one of the great things about PL power amps with their autobias circuitry able to accommodate so many type of valves, they are a whole bunch of different amps in one. I love the 5, which is why I chose to go to the 7s for an upgrade. The 7s seem to bring improved definition, clarity, imaging and greater authority. Definitely a step up from an already excellent amp. Pretty much the same but better - which is exactly what I wanted. Anyway, much experimentation and listening ahead. But I think these are keepers*. (* Keeper may not mean the same in my terminology as it does in yours ). And a buyer already lined up for the 5. |
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Post by firebottle on Apr 25, 2021 7:55:49 GMT
Jerry definition. 'Keeper = anything that stays more than 90 days'
Really glad they are a step up from the 5.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 8:05:01 GMT
Jerry definition. 'Keeper = anything that stays more than 90 9 days' Really glad they are a step up from the 5. Fixed it for you. |
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 25, 2021 8:12:25 GMT
No, Alan is spot on, ,I think.
90 days is a good definition of medium term keeper.
Long term keeper = 1 year+.
Keeper = 5 years+
The PL5 was a long term keeper.
My MBL speakers are keepers.
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The All PL valve setup is very punchy, high impact, high def, rather forward. No prisoners taken.
10 years ago, probably even 5 years ago, I think I'd have loved it.
Now I have mellowed a bit and prefer a more laidback presentation.
I swapped out the PL KT88 for 2 GE and 2 TAD 6L6GC valves in each mono amp... Fuller tonally, more 3D. Much more laidback.
Too laidback.
Swapped out the 2 TAD 6L6GC for 2 of the PL KT88 in each mono. Yup, that's it. Good compromise.
I also ended up replacing all of the 'small valves' with a random selection of ones I know I like from TAD, PSVANE, Matsushita.
I'll stay with this for a while as a good basis for further experimentation.
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Post by jandl100 on Apr 30, 2021 12:09:00 GMT
And now playing its very lovely heart out for me, an oldy but goldy Concordant Exhiliarant valve preamp, very kindly loaned to me by a Wammer  |
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