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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 20:49:50 GMT
Looks like an interesting proposistion if your after a brand new deck with a warranty and a guarantee. It comes fitted with Ortofon 2M Red as standard and has a built on phono stage that is totally seperate from the phono input should you want to use a seperate stage. Looks like a great little deck.  NKGLVBQ3adJzN7Jd6322S8-1200-80 by
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Post by dsjr on Dec 10, 2019 20:56:49 GMT
I wonder how it'll compare with the original I have here?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 20:59:00 GMT
If I was spending a grand on a deck, I don't think it would go on one of these. But then, I'd not be looking at the new market.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 20:59:12 GMT
How much ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 5:32:01 GMT
You got Google it is your friend. 899 Quid.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 6:40:05 GMT
About fair I reckon.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 11, 2019 8:17:53 GMT
TBF, I think this is a tidy little unit. It'll be top quality build by technics and will certainly sound good.
For under £1k new, it's not bad but as said, I'd go and get a used SP10 MK2 for not that much more
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Post by antonio on Dec 11, 2019 11:26:07 GMT
Yes, but then you've got to it re-plinthed and buy an arm, £500 minimum.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 11, 2019 12:01:18 GMT
Yes, but then you've got to it re-plinthed and buy an arm, £500 minimum. You don't have to put it in a plinth. Technics made them so they could free stand but obviously, a plinth is desirable. If fact, you could literally bung it into some old kitchen work surface and it would do a dance all over most normal TT's Ok, it needs an arm but you can get Regas for £100. If you were just trying to get it going, that's more than sufficient. Both plinth and arm would be easy enough with a ruler, Jigsaw and few nuts and bolts. |
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Post by macca on Dec 11, 2019 12:23:54 GMT
Cast a concrete plinth for it. Concrete is cheap.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 11, 2019 12:24:45 GMT
Cast a concrete plinth for it. Concrete is cheap. Absolutely but the mould/cast would be a right Sh#t to make, and make well. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 13:09:47 GMT
Cast a concrete plinth for it. Concrete is cheap. Absolutely but the mould/cast would be a right Sh#t to make, and make well.
Just cast a concrete mould for the mould....
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Post by sq225917 on Dec 11, 2019 17:50:32 GMT
Make mould from paper mache and burn it off once happy
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 11, 2019 17:57:32 GMT
Make mould from paper mache and burn it off once happy That's an out the box idea. I like it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:09:26 GMT
Make mould from paper mache and burn it off once happy It would need to be damn thick and strong papier mache, wet concrete is really heavy and will deform any weak mould. Not to mention that the water content will turn the paper back into mush. You can get round that by applying wood hardener or acrylic lacquer to papier mache though. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 20:33:19 GMT
The point is that I don't suppose this deck is aimed at the likes of us but at those who just want a plug and play no nonsense record player that sounds good and is very well made.
And though the 2M Red is an excellent cart for the money I'd expect a decent mid range MM from the likes of Audio Technica would improve it a lot that and a seperate stage.
I'd like to hear one next to an LP12 Majik and I'm not LP12 bashing I've owned quite a few and still enjoy how they sound but if you stuck the entry level Linn next to this deck
then £899 will seem excellent value.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 11, 2019 21:48:42 GMT
Make mould from paper mache and burn it off once happy It would need to be damn thick and strong papier mache, wet concrete is really heavy and will deform any weak mould. Not to mention that the water content will turn the paper back into mush. You can get round that by applying wood hardener or acrylic lacquer to papier mache though. I may try a concrete moulded plinth. It's certainly interesting. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 22:07:10 GMT
It would need to be damn thick and strong papier mache, wet concrete is really heavy and will deform any weak mould. Not to mention that the water content will turn the paper back into mush. You can get round that by applying wood hardener or acrylic lacquer to papier mache though. I may try a concrete moulded plinth. It's certainly interesting. You'll need a metal or glass fibre mould with absolutely smooth and true surfaces, as concrete takes on a mirror image of mould sufaces. Any flaws would be very tricky to deal with. Also, you'd need to mould in any required recesses and cavities at the same time and cast the whole thing in one piece. Concrete was one of my (many) specialities when I was in civil engineering. Metal moulds more or less rule themselves out due to cost. You can make concrete composites with strengthening fibres and polymers. It's an endless subject. If you'd care to wade through what I used to post on AOS in Abstract Chat back in 2013 or 2014, you'll find an article by me about the history of concrete. Somebody raised the subject, so I responded. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 12, 2019 7:02:37 GMT
I may try a concrete moulded plinth. It's certainly interesting. You'll need a metal or glass fibre mould with absolutely smooth and true surfaces, as concrete takes on a mirror image of mould sufaces. Any flaws would be very tricky to deal with. Also, you'd need to mould in any required recesses and cavities at the same time and cast the whole thing in one piece. Concrete was one of my (many) specialities when I was in civil engineering. Metal moulds more or less rule themselves out due to cost. You can make concrete composites with strengthening fibres and polymers. It's an endless subject. If you'd care to wade through what I used to post on AOS in Abstract Chat back in 2013 or 2014, you'll find an article by me about the history of concrete. Somebody raised the subject, so I responded. Well, oddly enough I did find a few of your posts on the subject when I had a look at what may be involved if I were to try it. I didn't read much but I will investigate further |
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Post by macca on Dec 12, 2019 12:36:58 GMT
Ken (Qwin) on AoS is the man to ask. He put an SL1200 in a concrete plinth.
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Post by dsjr on Dec 12, 2019 17:17:50 GMT
Years ago with the first issue 1500 generation, a sand lined box did the business... May I suggest the basic option? Do a Rega and take the lid off when playing...
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Post by sq225917 on Dec 12, 2019 17:54:24 GMT
I made a vibrocast concrete composite speaker cab during my degree, filled with wood flour and butyl shavings. Dead as a dead thing but an absolute bugger to mix.
Patrick Hanscombe was a great source of info.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 13, 2019 23:09:43 GMT
Ken (Qwin) on AoS is the man to ask. He put an SL1200 in a concrete plinth. Great shout, I have his email. I'll drop him a message |
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