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Post by Bigman80 on May 1, 2018 14:47:27 GMT
Just bought a pair of these and wondering what to expect, I only know Grados and I own SR80i SR60i and RS2e. Interested to hear your thoughts.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 2, 2018 13:53:22 GMT
Just enjoyed a comparative listening session to AudioQuest Nighthawk, Grado RS1000 and Audeze LCD 2. I was using the lovely new Cyrus 1 amp with Audiolab transport. Here are a few thoughts:
1. AudioQuest Nighthawk. Very smooth sounding and well made. Comfortable too, just lacking a bit of overall clarity. I think in the long term, they wouldn't be clear enough to keep me satisfied. 2. Grado RS1000. Sounded a bit thin and bright coming after the Nighthawks, but my ears quickly adapted. The extra clarity then hit home. Downsides? Just not enough bass for me. I don't really think they are significantly better than the RS2es that I already own and their lack of bass would make them a step backwards. 3. Audeze LCD2. Very well made and they had me wanting them from just picking them up and handling them. Sound was like a better defined version of the Nighthawks. Not really a great deal more clarity though and the bass was still a bit thuddy. They were insanely heavy too. Not sure I could tolerate that weight for long, although the pads were very luxurious. Given that these are planar magnetic cans, I'd expected something special with soundstaging. Honestly, I heard nothing to suggest the technology behind them was different from the Grados or AQs.
So where does this lead me? Well none of them were a step up from the RS2e that I own. But then even they aren't anywhere near as good as I want. So far I still haven't heard a pair of headphones that approach even a budget pair of speakers. Unless I find a pair of phones that are stratospherically better than those I have heard so far, I will remain a headphone skeptic. My mate has a pair of Stax Lambda Pro Signatures that he will let me try at some point, but they will have to completely bury every other headphone I have heard to raise my interest. Having the sound "inside your head" with no soundstaging just isn't "hifi" to me. I see little worth in spending more than the cost of a used pair of SR60s because the improvements from spending lots more are pretty small. Maybe I just have different priorities to people who enjoy headphones.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 14:15:39 GMT
Never heard these, but maybe give the Sennheiser HD800 a listen?
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Post by Bigman80 on May 2, 2018 18:42:52 GMT
I will need to check out Sennheiser. The guy lettimg me have a listen loves the HD600s that you are keen on too IIRC
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 18:45:26 GMT
The HD600 isn't for everyone, but that's life. They're good headphones in their own right. No such thing as the best headphone/speaker in the world. That is just red pill brutal fact!
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Post by Bigman80 on May 2, 2018 18:57:17 GMT
You're right there, I am surprised how little the improvements are between a £100 and a £1000 pair of headphones though. Most of the difference with the Grados seems to stem from the foams, cabling and the small wooden bits. None of which are exactly expensive. Changing the pads on my SR60i and SR80i brought them far closer to the RS2es and they cost me £1.70 a pair.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 19:07:47 GMT
Diminishing returns can be a hard pill to swallow.
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Post by antonio on May 4, 2018 10:00:50 GMT
Do try Senn HD700's Westie, light and comfortable, and if you can't manage to get to hear a set you would be welcome to try mine.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 0:38:42 GMT
Sennheisers are more comfortable than most. They are maybe a bit darker than Grados but it is nice to have a couple of headphone options to suit your moods and musical tastes. I haven’t heard any AKGs. A few people seem to like those Fostex phones but I would like to hear rather than just buy blind.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 5, 2018 8:02:40 GMT
Do try Senn HD700's Westie, light and comfortable, and if you can't manage to get to hear a set you would be welcome to try mine. Thanks so much for the offer. If I find myself in the UK for a settled period I may well take you up on that. You'd be welcome to try any of mine in return.
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