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Post by Arke on Aug 14, 2024 17:14:41 GMT
Dave is correct Quad ESL 57 but I do not have the ability to screw in to then would need to talk to me and see if they can produce one without a bolt in and let my wooden spikes sit in the open hole . The AUVA Speaker Isolation 'pucks' have an m8 female thread in the top. An adapter screws into this to provide a vafiety of male thread options to cover virtually all options. However, should you wish, you can not use the thread adapters and put the AUVAs directly under a speaker. You could certainly locate your wooden spikes into the m8 female thread - this would work very well. Currently, three people are testing with 'spikes'/feet just resting in the AUVA female threads - all are still getting great results. Let me know if you want to try some and they can be sent when available.
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Post by bencat on Aug 15, 2024 12:38:03 GMT
Jason thank you for your kind offer which I would be pleased to use but I have a tiled solid floor so would not be able to use the spikes on the Auva as they could get blunted . Instead will wait and see what comes out from the others currently using them and then perhaps get in touch with Stack and see what they suggest . I know they offer an option for hard floors so will see .
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Post by Arke on Aug 15, 2024 14:45:44 GMT
Jason thank you for your kind offer which I would be pleased to use but I have a tiled solid floor so would not be able to use the spikes on the Auva as they could get blunted . Instead will wait and see what comes out from the others currently using them and then perhaps get in touch with Stack and see what they suggest . I know they offer an option for hard floors so will see . They are designed for solid floors, Andrew. The optional spikes are for carpet and the AUVAs have felt on the base for solid floors. Three people are currently testing on solid floors and all are getting excellent improvements. Steve (solid floors) will likely report back in due course.
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Post by firebottle on Aug 16, 2024 6:38:56 GMT
'Steve (solid floors)' Is that his new nickname? Loving this thread and the exploratory nature of it.
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Post by Arke on Aug 16, 2024 7:04:20 GMT
'Steve (solid floors)' Is that his new nickname? Loving this thread and the exploratory nature of it. Thanks Alan, and hope you are well. Try some under your Ektas - sets are making their way around systems. Steve (solid floors) and (bouncy) Oli...
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Post by stevew on Aug 16, 2024 7:52:20 GMT
'Steve (solid floors)' Is that his new nickname? Loving this thread and the exploratory nature of it. If you’re going to have a nickname in prison, then Solid Floor is better than Bouncy. Bit pushed for time, but will do a small write up on the Stack Auva soon. In the meantime I can only say that the improvements in the Ekta are massive. Been experimenting with positioning to find the right balance between sound quality and aesthetic. Think I’ve found the optimum.
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 19, 2024 18:44:44 GMT
Well this has been intriguing to read, so intriguing that I have ordered a set of AUVA 50s for my Tannoys. Just working out how to fit them now.
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 19, 2024 18:52:55 GMT
Well this has been intriguing to read, so intriguing that I have ordered a set of AUVA 50s for my Tannoys. Just working out how to fit them now. Wow, fantastic! Please report back. Collating the reviews and experience on these so it would be most helpful 🙂
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Post by Arke on Aug 19, 2024 18:53:59 GMT
Well this has been intriguing to read, so intriguing that I have ordered a set of AUVA 50s for my Tannoys. Just working out how to fit them now. Let us know how it goes. Don't you have big Tannoys? You may need something larger than 50s. However, the 50s should give you an idea of what may be possible.
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 19, 2024 19:03:35 GMT
Well this has been intriguing to read, so intriguing that I have ordered a set of AUVA 50s for my Tannoys. Just working out how to fit them now. Wow, fantastic! Please report back. Collating the reviews and experience on these so it would be most helpful 🙂 Will do , been a bit of a hifi drought for a while as I have had other commitments. The feet I put on them were always intended to be temporary, I added some Hudson HIFHI big foots under each corner for a cheap experiment and it made a big difference to the bass and overall sound, better timbre and tonality. So that has encouraged me to go for something more permeant and the 50s will be pretty unobtrusive by the looks of it. Hopefully I'll be able to get them on this weekend.
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 19, 2024 20:07:32 GMT
Let us know how it goes. Don't you have big Tannoys? You may need something larger than 50s. However, the 50s should give you an idea of what may be possible. Well they have 10 inch drivers and are about 700 mil high, so not too massive like 15 inchers. They are quite heavy but I think the 50s should be ok looking at the specs for weight. we'll see.
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Post by Bigman80 on Aug 19, 2024 21:19:05 GMT
Wow, fantastic! Please report back. Collating the reviews and experience on these so it would be most helpful 🙂 Will do , been a bit of a hifi drought for a while as I have had other commitments. The feet I put on them were always intended to be temporary, I added some Hudson HIFHI big foots under each corner for a cheap experiment and it made a big difference to the bass and overall sound, better timbre and tonality. So that has encouraged me to go for something more permeant and the 50s will be pretty unobtrusive by the looks of it. Hopefully I'll be able to get them on this weekend. I am sure they will be super. Any idea when they arrive?
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 19, 2024 21:33:48 GMT
Weds with a bit of luck.
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Post by Arke on Aug 20, 2024 7:19:04 GMT
Let us know how it goes. Don't you have big Tannoys? You may need something larger than 50s. However, the 50s should give you an idea of what may be possible. Well they have 10 inch drivers and are about 700 mil high, so not too massive like 15 inchers. They are quite heavy but I think the 50s should be ok looking at the specs for weight. we'll see. 50s are good for 275kg, as all are IIRC. See what differences you notice. People with 5-7" bass drivers are still reporting noticeable gains with 70s and even going to 100s. 100s are more pricey and pretty large though. Aesthetics is also important for most people too. Probably depends how loud you listen too. Loud music will always benefit from more effective damping/isolation.
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 21, 2024 15:58:38 GMT
Well these came today, first impressions- well packed and solidly made. They have a quality feel about them.
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Post by Arke on Aug 21, 2024 16:11:57 GMT
Exciting stuff... Now for the real test...
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 21, 2024 16:49:11 GMT
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Post by Arke on Aug 21, 2024 17:04:32 GMT
Looking good! They look pretty discreet under there. Most people have reported the best SQ with the most direct coupling to the cabinet... So no outriggers, and no additional feet etc. Ideally, I'd recommend m8 inserts in the cabinet. Pretty sure placed underneath will work well too.
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 21, 2024 17:44:49 GMT
Thanks for the tips , I'll have to see where I can add the M8 threads to the cabs, wasn't planning on out riggers or anything like that.
1st impressions , everything is tighter. more later.
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Post by Arke on Aug 21, 2024 17:47:41 GMT
Thanks for the tips , I'll have to see where I can add the M8 threads to the cabs, wasn't planning on out riggers or anything like that. 1st impressions , everything is tighter. more later. Or add m6 threaded inserts (easier) and get some m6 adapters instead. I can get you some m6 adapters if needed.
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Post by lurch on Aug 21, 2024 19:03:39 GMT
Thanks for the tips , I'll have to see where I can add the M8 threads to the cabs, wasn't planning on out riggers or anything like that. 1st impressions , everything is tighter. more later. Here you go, double ended dowels, fleabay/Amazon is your friend
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 21, 2024 19:45:30 GMT
Or add m6 threaded inserts (easier) and get some m6 adapters instead. I can get you some m6 adapters if needed. Thanks I'll have a look when my thread inserts get here and see how they might fit.
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Post by Arke on Aug 21, 2024 19:50:09 GMT
Or add m6 threaded inserts (easier) and get some m6 adapters instead. I can get you some m6 adapters if needed. Thanks I'll have a look when my thread inserts get here and see how they might fit. Happy to help you fit free of charge if you live near Derbyshire and fancy a visit.
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Post by robbiegong on Aug 21, 2024 19:52:00 GMT
Or add m6 threaded inserts (easier) and get some m6 adapters instead. I can get you some m6 adapters if needed. Thanks I'll have a look when my thread inserts get here and see how they might fit. Good move and looking good Andy. Getting floorstaders up off the floor probably best thing you can do I've found.
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Post by Arke on Aug 21, 2024 20:05:46 GMT
Demo sets available
Also, if anyone wants to try some AUVA 50s, 70s or 100s let me know! Got lots of demo sets on loan. Send me a PM or reply on this thread. The waiting list is growing fast, but I can probably get more demo sets if required.
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 21, 2024 21:44:58 GMT
Thanks I'll have a look when my thread inserts get here and see how they might fit. Happy to help you fit free of charge if you live near Derbyshire and fancy a visit. Thanks for the offer , however I'm in sunny SE London so a bit too far!
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Post by electronumpty on Aug 21, 2024 22:24:16 GMT
Thanks I'll have a look when my thread inserts get here and see how they might fit. Good move and looking good Andy. Getting floorstaders up off the floor probably best thing you can do I've found. Cheers mate , once sorted, you should come over and check em out.
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Post by antonio on Aug 22, 2024 5:30:02 GMT
So 1st step to replace the silicon damper until I can make new feet with an M8 thread in them . Just restng on them ATM. I think the size suits the scale of the cabinet. Will have a listen and report back... That's how we've got them under the Vaders, definitely an improvement over the bamboo outriggers Jason was kind enough to lend us. They have been forwarded to optical so it will be interesting to see how he gets on.
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Post by robbiegong on Aug 22, 2024 8:58:18 GMT
Good move and looking good Andy. Getting floorstaders up off the floor probably best thing you can do I've found. Cheers mate , once sorted, you should come over and check em out. Will do Andy, been a while we aint had a catch up n sesh.
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Post by markn on Aug 22, 2024 12:53:46 GMT
Dave (Antonio) and I went to Jason's to listen to the Stack Auva isolation devices against our Townshend Bars and the Iso Acoustics Gaia devices.
Jason has covered this in his comprehensive review on page 2. The Stacks Auva 100 were extremely impressive. For some reason our Townshend Bars were totally outclassed in Jason's room and with his system. We have the same speakers (Arke Vaders), so we left Jason's a bit puzzled, but with a set of Auva 100's to try at our home in our system.
Our floor is a suspended wooden floor with a thinnish carpet with underlay. The Townshend bars have always worked well under our speakers in this room (first the Estelon xb Mk1, then the Arke Vaders).
Jason lent us some bamboo outriggers that we screwed the Auva 100's into. We left the Auvas under the Vaders for several days and played a lot of different styles of music. We liked what the Auvas were doing; we felt the sound was a bit clearer and more solid than with the Townshends. The differences did not seem as great in our room as we experienced in Jason's room, though.
When we put the Townshend bars back in the system, we felt they lost a bit of the clarity of the Auvas, but the differences were not huge.
We tried the Auvas again after a couple of days, but instead of using them on the bamboo outriggers, we positioned them directly under the speakers, although they were not screwed into the speakers. We both thought they looked better positioned like this. When we played the music again, we felt that the sound had improved yet again; it was more solid and a bit clearer, with the images a bit more precise and solid. We preferred the Auvas directly under the speakers.
When we did the final comparison of the newly-positioned Auvas against the Townshend bars, we thought the Auva's were definitely better. The sound through the system with the Auvas was tighter, snappier and more solid, with a slightly better flow to the music.
As I said, the differences were not huge, but in our system, they were noticeable enough for us to purchase a set of Auva 100's.
Many thanks to Jason for arranging the loans of the Auva 100's and for putting on the comparisons at his house.
Photos below.
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