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Nytech
Aug 10, 2018 8:12:53 GMT
Post by dsjr on Aug 10, 2018 8:12:53 GMT
Loads of noise on the Vintage UK page on Facebook about the cheeky, musical sounding and endearing (when it worked) CTA252 receiver that looked like a 1970's adding machine
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Bigman80
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Nytech
Aug 10, 2018 8:54:45 GMT
Post by Bigman80 on Aug 10, 2018 8:54:45 GMT
I never tried that one. It seems to have a lot of followers. I did try the Nytech Obelisks and Ion Obelisks though. I thought them all to be poor. Actually, I thought they we even worse than that.the smaller ones are muffled and weak. The Obleisk 3 with Xpak was hard and strident, utterly blown off the face of the earth by any Naim. Yes I’ve been compared.
Of course this is only my opinion and YMMV. I find It interesting that Ion were often paired with Ruark, which I also generally dislike. I find them smeared and incoherent sounding. Basically they sounded less clear and more messy than whether I compared them to. Maybe the two just worked together.
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Nytech
Aug 10, 2018 8:59:58 GMT
Post by dsjr on Aug 10, 2018 8:59:58 GMT
Ion was a different and rather horrible range. the slanty Nytech integrateds lost the magic too, as the tone control stage was replaced with a gain buffer which wasn't the 'same' sonically I recall.
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Aug 10, 2018 9:06:04 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 9:06:04 GMT
Never had one come my way. I was always curious about them though.
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Nytech
Aug 10, 2018 9:36:24 GMT
Post by dsjr on Aug 10, 2018 9:36:24 GMT
The 'magic' in the original receiver was probably distortion or lack of control of one form or another and bass control wasn't in the portfolio. Hugely entertaining light and airy music reproduction though, but early ones went wrong regularly. We had the later ones with flying phono input leads-sockets and 4mm speaker sockets too and these were much better. The basic integrated amps may well have been 'better' technically, but I'm beginning to realise it's the looks and feel as well that also matters.
The active Isobarik amp system they did was actually very good with the 'Briks and many oldies here may remember the again good (at the time but it's forty years now) ARC 0.5 and 101 active systems - the ARC's worked well in active form. I'll have to try to find an early pic of the Nytech 'Music centre' concept with a tacked on Garrard Zero 100 on the side as that's how I first heard of them in the early to mid 70's... Not sure if any were made up like this though, but I definitely remember it. I'd no idea the company still survived in one form or another, that old models can be serviced and that a newish range existed - possibly at high prices? Lots of 'words' about putting the music first before measurements, but until they're actually listened to under familiar circumstances i don't know.
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Aug 10, 2018 11:31:46 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 11:31:46 GMT
I had a Nytech amp. Wish I could comment on the sound quality, but it never worked long enough to judge.
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Nytech
Aug 11, 2018 9:40:17 GMT
Post by dsjr on Aug 11, 2018 9:40:17 GMT
I didn't think the amps were bad as the internal build was good, but maybe we were lucky. Something happened in the Ion designs - they went all Marantz PM66KI on us - fatiguing, hard toned and unlistenable in the quest for 'excitement,' as the Nytech amps sounded more 'ordinary' and anonymous without the wacky looks of the receiver...
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