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Post by Arke on May 27, 2022 17:44:01 GMT
Cheers. Picture of blade at start of thread. It's a Trend multi material TCT blade. Works well on ally and plastic Thanks, that's handy to know if I ever stop cutting wood and start cutting other things How did you find that blade. I'll be looking at replacing mine soon. I think I've cut through too many nails as I repurpose old wood for new projects quite a lot of the time So far, the blade has been fantastic. My brother is a professional Carpenter/Joiner and uses this blade also. It's made many metres of cuts through ally and acrylic and still going strong. Works great on wood too. I used a Trend cutting lubricant wax with ally, which is rubbed on the blade every few cuts - it's supposed to prolong the life of the blade. I was amazed how easily it cuts through ally. The 45deg cuts in 9.5mm plate are effectively 14mm of ally thickness in one cut and it glided through. It's also extremely rigid, so you can shave tiny slithers off - even 0.1-0.2mm at a time, which is great for getting things really exact.
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Post by Arke on May 27, 2022 17:46:30 GMT
Very neat work again. This is gonna look rather nice Thanks for the kind words. I was trying to make it look non-DIY... I may be slightly obsessive and love the challenge of trying to get a decent finish.
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Post by electronumpty on May 27, 2022 17:51:26 GMT
Be careful or a certain Mr Manbigbottleavalon80biscuitdodaah will have you making then for his products! Great work. 👍
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Post by Arke on May 27, 2022 18:06:47 GMT
Be careful or a certain Mr Manbigbottleavalon80biscuitdodaah will have you making then for his products! Great work. 👍 I'm not sure if I have the most efficient (and cost effective) manufacturing tools and methods. 🤔😂 The current BB3 case is rather lovely too.
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Post by brian2957 on May 27, 2022 19:42:21 GMT
Very neat work again. This is gonna look rather nice Thanks for the kind words. I was trying to make it look non-DIY... I may be slightly obsessive and love the challenge of trying to get a decent finish. Difficult to do with aluminium, although it is one of the softer metals.
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Post by brian2957 on May 27, 2022 19:44:42 GMT
Thanks, that's handy to know if I ever stop cutting wood and start cutting other things How did you find that blade. I'll be looking at replacing mine soon. I think I've cut through too many nails as I repurpose old wood for new projects quite a lot of the time So far, the blade has been fantastic. My brother is a professional Carpenter/Joiner and uses this blade also. It's made many metres of cuts through ally and acrylic and still going strong. Works great on wood too. I used a Trend cutting lubricant wax with ally, which is rubbed on the blade every few cuts - it's supposed to prolong the life of the blade. I was amazed how easily it cuts through ally. The 45deg cuts in 9.5mm plate are effectively 14mm of ally thickness in one cut and it glided through. It's also extremely rigid, so you can shave tiny slithers off - even 0.1-0.2mm at a time, which is great for getting things really exact. The Trend blades seem to be a decent price too. I will have to check my table saw and make sure I order the correct size. Thanks
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Post by mayebaza on May 27, 2022 20:14:09 GMT
😍😍😍😍😍👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
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Post by Arke on May 28, 2022 8:32:22 GMT
KEEPING A LID ON IT?! How to attach a lid with no fixings on show? I needed a straightforward and effective solution to keep the lid securely in place. I didn't want fixings visible on the top, front, back or sides, so would have to go from underneath. The top is 4mm thick, so too thin to blind tap holes in its underside. Instead I opted to bond another 4mm plate to the underside of the lid. This plate is tapped with 2 x M6 holes which line up with long (81mm) bolts coming up through the base. I did some experiments with different bonding adhesives and settled on Everbuild Stixall. This is a flexible adhesive/sealant and was extremely strong when cured. It has the added benefit of adding extra damping to the top plate. As a test I bonded two ally plates together and put a M6 thread into one of them. I then fixed a bolt into one plate and tried to pull the plates apart... The adhesive won! The thread, admittedly only 4mm of engagement, stripped before the adhesive failed. I wasn't too worried about the thread stripping on the chassis as I wouldn't require excessive tightening forces to hold the lid on safely. Here is an image of the 2 x M6 bolts coming up through the base: The lid fixing method has the added benefit that it tensions the top and bottom of the chassis together. This reduces vibration and ensures a very solid construction - completely OTT engineering!
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Post by Bigman80 on May 28, 2022 10:31:07 GMT
This is all very Excellent work!
Thanks for taking the time to share so far.
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Post by brian2957 on May 28, 2022 10:53:25 GMT
Lots of excellent ideas here. Great build thread for a case Thanks from me too for sharing
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Post by Arke on May 28, 2022 12:02:53 GMT
This is all very Excellent work! Thanks for taking the time to share so far. Cheers Oli! Thanks for building the PCB and giving me the opportunity to go the (semi) DIY route. Thanks so much for all you help and guidance too - I wouldn't have made it this far without your support.
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Post by Arke on May 28, 2022 12:13:34 GMT
Lots of excellent ideas here. Great build thread for a case Thanks from me too for sharing It's a pleasure and fun to do the thread too. It was much easier to work aluminium than I'd anticipated - I wanted to share in case others may be tempted to DIY with ally too. (this is the warm up thread... The case is relatively simple compared to the sub and speakers! 😂)
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Post by antonio on May 28, 2022 12:56:15 GMT
Great thread and pictures to make it easy to follow, well done
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Post by brian2957 on May 28, 2022 18:28:32 GMT
Lots of excellent ideas here. Great build thread for a case Thanks from me too for sharing It's a pleasure and fun to do the thread too. It was much easier to work aluminium than I'd anticipated - I wanted to share in case others may be tempted to DIY with ally too. (this is the warm up thread... The case is relatively simple compared to the sub and speakers! 😂) Wouldn't mind building a sub
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Post by Arke on May 28, 2022 19:23:03 GMT
It's a pleasure and fun to do the thread too. It was much easier to work aluminium than I'd anticipated - I wanted to share in case others may be tempted to DIY with ally too. (this is the warm up thread... The case is relatively simple compared to the sub and speakers! 😂) Wouldn't mind building a sub That should be the next build thread. It's pretty unique for a sub cabinet...
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Post by Arke on May 29, 2022 18:51:57 GMT
THE VALVE WINDOW: There were quite a few decisions concerning the valve window, for example: - does it go on one side of the chassis or across the back or front? - is it raised up on standoffs or flush to the top? - is is toughened glass or plastic? - is it clear or tinted? I'm sorry it's now too late to debate this... As it's now finished. As you can see, it was decided (with Oli, amongst others) to put the window on the right and to have it flush to the top. I looked into toughened glass, but it would have been quite expensive (about £70). Strangely more expensive because it was so small. Instead, I chose 5mm thick acrylic! I know, I know, this completely spoils the bulletproof nature of the box! Any decent marksman can now obliterate the window and Oli's wonderful work beneath!!! Next choice was clear or tinted - these images show glass look acrylic and light tint acrylic: I preferred light tint as it allowed a good view underneath, but was slightly more subtle and looked pretty slick with the brushed aluminium look. Here is a quick sketch of how the acrylic was mounted: The acrylic was cut 20mm wider/longer than the window to give a 10mm underlap all round. I used the table saw to remove acrylic to a 3.8mm depth in a 10mm border all around. This allowed the acrylic to sit a fraction (about 0.2mm) below the top of the aluminium lid. I used the Stixall sealant/adhesive to bond the thin acrylic underlapping lip to the underside of the lid. This is the finished valve window in place with the PCB underneath:
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Post by Bigman80 on May 29, 2022 19:21:43 GMT
THE VALVE WINDOW: There were quite a few decisions concerning the valve window, for example: - does it go on one side of the chassis or across the back or front? - is it raised up on standoffs or flush to the top? - is is toughened glass or plastic? - is it clear or tinted? I'm sorry it's now too late to debate this... As it's now finished. As you can see, it was decided (with Oli, amongst others) to put the window on the right and to have it flush to the top. I looked into toughened glass, but it would have been quite expensive (about £70). Strangely more expensive because it was so small. Instead, I chose 5mm thick acrylic! I know, I know, this completely spoils the bulletproof nature of the box! Any decent marksman can now obliterate the window and Oli's wonderful work beneath!!! Next choice was clear or tinted - these images show glass look acrylic and light tint acrylic: I preferred light tint as it allowed a good view underneath, but was slightly more subtle and looked pretty slick with the brushed aluminium look. Here is a quick sketch of how the acrylic was mounted: The acrylic was cut 20mm wider/longer than the window to give a 10mm underlap all round. I used the table saw to remove acrylic to a 3.8mm depth in a 10mm border all around. This allowed the acrylic to sit a fraction (about 0.2mm) below the top of the aluminium lid. I used the Stixall sealant/adhesive to bond the thin acrylic underlapping lip to the underside of the lid. This is the finished valve window in place with the PCB underneath: That does look the nuts doesn't it.
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Post by brian2957 on May 29, 2022 19:28:26 GMT
Yup, looks excellent
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Post by antonio on May 30, 2022 5:05:10 GMT
One question, how on earth did you cut the acrylic so you were able to get a 1mm sliver to stick under the aluminium?
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Post by Arke on May 30, 2022 6:28:33 GMT
One question, how on earth did you cut the acrylic so you were able to get a 1mm sliver to stick under the aluminium? Unfortunately, I don't have pictures of the this process, so hopefully words will suffice... I set the table saw blade to protude about 3.8-4mm and used a digital depth guage to check it. I then used some scrap acrylic to test the depth of the cut. Once this was correct I started to cut the actual window. The acrylic was 110mm x 256mm (a 10mm underlap on a 90mm x 236mm valve window. For the 10mm underlap border I first set the table saw fence to 107mm and ran the acrylic through lengthways on both sides (with the top of the window facing down onto the table saw top). These first two cuts gave a 3mm wide slither on both sides. I then moved the fence to 104mm and ran both sides through. Then fence at 101mm and both sides through. There was now a 9mm border on both long sides of the acrylic. I required a 10mm border so start moving the fence a tiny amount (0.2mm) and checking the acrylic in the aluminium hole unitl it just fits. The next step was to cut the 10mm wide slither border on both ends. I made a plywood jig to hold the acrylic at 90 degrees to the fence and once again made a series of 3mm wide cuts to both ends of the window. The fence moving gradually in until the window length was correct. The width and length of the acrylic (with 10mm underlap) were now correct, but more work was required to get it to fit... The valve window hole in the aluminium had radiused corners (from the 5mm router bit). Therefore I used a needle file to file down and soften the corners on the acrylic window. A little was filed, then it was checked for fit repeatedly until it slotted into the aluminium. This had to be exact, as any obvious gaps would spoil the look of the window. The 10mm wide (1.2mm thick) acrylic slither was quite delicate, but OK to handle carefully. It was super solid once glued in place on the aluminium. Hopefully that makes sense. It sounds highly laborious, but wasn't too bad as the table saw it a great bit of kit and the acrylic is very easy to cut. The whole process took about 1 hour.
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Post by antonio on May 30, 2022 7:43:16 GMT
That does sound complicated, but since it took you 'only 1 hour' I guess you knew what you were doing, my thoughts/words cannot be written down on a public forum, and I've put some 'stuff' up in the past Again well done.
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Post by Arke on May 30, 2022 9:53:01 GMT
PCB, TRANSFORMER AND WIRING: The chassis was pretty much finished, so it was onto wiring and fitting the PCB and transformer. Oli very kindly sourced the same transformer used for the BB3 and it arrived potted and shielded. The transformer was placed as far from the PCB as possible and was bolted into M4 threaded holes in the base of the chassis. The PCB sat on 9mm standoffs - these were chosen so that the valves sit just a few mm under the acrylic window. My first iteration had no twists... [My engineering skills are much better than my electronic skills!!!] Oli was very helpful and advised me to improve things by adding twists to the cabling: I used Neotech copper 24AWG hook up cable for the signal wiring. The power switch LED took a 0V/7V feed from the PCB (Oli advised where). The keen eyed will also notice a plate in the centre of the base. This is a 2mm aluminium plate which has been bonded on with a flexible sealant - this is to provide additional damping.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2022 11:16:51 GMT
Is the earth bolt going through the additional plate, and the external chassis?
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Post by Arke on May 30, 2022 11:29:47 GMT
Is the earth bolt going through the additional plate, and the external chassis? Yep, an M4 8mm bolt which goes through both.
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Post by Arke on May 30, 2022 16:25:32 GMT
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Post by electronumpty on May 30, 2022 16:52:36 GMT
Great, you'll love the sound no doubt, it's especially rewarding when you build something yourself. 😀👍
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Post by antonio on May 30, 2022 17:07:06 GMT
Well you certainly don't let the grass grow under your feet, that looks tremendous, now don't go and hurt your back lifting it into place
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Post by Arke on May 30, 2022 17:32:54 GMT
Well you certainly don't let the grass grow under your feet, that looks tremendous, now don't go and hurt your back lifting it into place Thanks! I didn't build it that quick, this was all written retrospectively - all finished about 2 weeks ago. It weighs 8kg, so not too bad.
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Post by antonio on May 30, 2022 19:05:08 GMT
Thought it may weigh more than that.
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Post by brian2957 on May 30, 2022 21:24:31 GMT
If it was built from steel plate it would probably weigh a ton. Aluminium is much lighter (luckily) Fantastic work and a very professional finish. Look forward to your review of the SQ
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