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Post by optical on Jul 29, 2022 13:45:31 GMT
I was only giving them a few days 'running in' before fiddling, always thought that was best for new speakers. True, I'm just in haste for you to untap the potential but if it sounds good anyway it's all good.
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Post by Pigmy Pony on Jul 29, 2022 13:55:40 GMT
That will do nothing to isolate the sub from the floor and it will continue to sing along to the music. ***Admin edit*** Wackjob, We don't do that here. The first part of your post is fine, but the rest wasn't necessary. BTW, the idea isn't to isolate the sub, the idea is to create a surface area that is much heavier, which changes the resonant frequency. We did that in my room which has a floor like a trampoline. A 12" Quadral sub and a lump of board heavy enough to sink. I didn't think it would work, but it did.
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Post by Pigmy Pony on Jul 29, 2022 14:01:00 GMT
That will do nothing to isolate the sub from the floor and it will continue to sing along to the music. ***Admin edit*** Wackjob, We don't do that here. The first part of your post is fine, but the rest wasn't necessary. BTW, the idea isn't to isolate the sub, the idea is to create a surface area that is much heavier, which changes the resonant frequency. We did that in my room which has a floor like a trampoline. A 12" Quadral sub and a lump of board heavy enough to sink. I didn't think it would work, but it did. I found this to be the case with my floorstanders, which have downward firing ports. When playing music at high(ish) volumes I could feel the bass through the floor. After placing 40mm thick solid oak slabs under them the floor vibrations all but disappeared. That must be a good thing, right? Certainly worth trying with a DF sub I would have thought.
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Post by antonio on Jul 29, 2022 15:31:34 GMT
I was only giving them a few days 'running in' before fiddling, always thought that was best for new speakers. Definitely wise. Did you check REL's run in recommendations? - you need to play it pretty loud (best to go out, as loud!) to break it in properly. Otherwise it can take weeks or months to break in. We never play our music too loud, always think of our neighbours, and although a Victorian build with good walls, we are in the middle of 3 properties, so not detached. I did adjust the settings quickly when first listening and I was happy with the sound this morning, last night turning it up a little, the bass seemed slightly overpowering, or at least more than what I'm used to. If it takes more time for them to run in so be it.
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Post by Arke on Jul 29, 2022 18:33:37 GMT
Definitely wise. Did you check REL's run in recommendations? - you need to play it pretty loud (best to go out, as loud!) to break it in properly. Otherwise it can take weeks or months to break in. We never play our music too loud, always think of our neighbours, and although a Victorian build with good walls, we are in the middle of 3 properties, so not detached. I did adjust the settings quickly when first listening and I was happy with the sound this morning, last night turning it up a little, the bass seemed slightly overpowering, or at least more than what I'm used to. If it takes more time for them to run in so be it. That's fair enough and completely understandable. You will find they will take a long time to loosen up at low volumes. Once really broken in they will be tighter, faster and go deeper - this is still extremely important when listening at low levels too. You may be reducing the gain bit by bit over the next few weeks. Do you have a cellar? Our old house had a cellar, so I stuck my new REL in there and waited until the neighbours were out. I could manage a few hours of really decent break in then. Once they're close to sounding right try lowering the crossover a few notches and increasing the gain one or two notches. It can sometimes really tighten things up. Often noticeable on bass guitars and kick drums. It tends to give slightly less boomy bass and more lovely tight bass. ENJOY! 😀
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Post by Bigman80 on Jul 29, 2022 20:41:14 GMT
Wackjob, We don't do that here. The first part of your post is fine, but the rest wasn't necessary. BTW, the idea isn't to isolate the sub, the idea is to create a surface area that is much heavier, which changes the resonant frequency. We did that in my room which has a floor like a trampoline. A 12" Quadral sub and a lump of board heavy enough to sink. I didn't think it would work, but it did. I found this to be the case with my floorstanders, which have downward firing ports. When playing music at high(ish) volumes I could feel the bass through the floor. After placing 40mm thick solid oak slabs under them the floor vibrations all but disappeared. That must be a good thing, right? Certainly worth trying with a DF sub I would have thought. Absolutely. It's preventing the floor from resonating. Exactly what i said it would do....after misterc showed me lol
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Post by antonio on Aug 4, 2022 10:00:45 GMT
Quick update, I now have the Quad's on 45cm stools, unsure if this was going to be too high but at the moment I am very happy as they are. Also I purchased a set of DNM Reson speaker cable (solid core), this is very light in weight and doesn't stress the input sockets on the Quads. not all keys are working on my laptop
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Post by optical on Aug 4, 2022 10:05:54 GMT
Quick update, I now have the Quad's on 45cm stools, unsure if this was going to be too high but at the moment I am very happy as they are. Also I purchased a set of DNM Reson speaker cable (solid core), this is very light in weight and doesn't stress the input sockets on the Quads. ng on my laptopDave - that looks about right for some stunning near field listening. I've had them setup in a similar way (although slightly lower and slightly more spread apart). As you know you only get a very narrow sweet spot but when you're in there it's absolutely magical. It's also worth having a play with the tilt angle from the rear of the speakers, a couple of books or coasters can do the job nicely actually. Also depends on how high your sofa/seat is. Time to sit back and enjoy what Quads are all about. Slightly envious over here I must say.
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Post by jandl100 on Aug 4, 2022 12:04:14 GMT
Very nice indeed, Dave. They should sound excellent.
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Post by antonio on Aug 4, 2022 14:52:46 GMT
Should have also mentioned the purchase of a REL T/5x sub which can just be seen under the right hand speaker, at the moment just letting it run in before trying some different settings and positioning
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Post by antonio on Sept 24, 2022 6:40:12 GMT
Considering many on here have been getting new toys, thought I'd do the same, and a couple of days ago a new Yaqin MS-300C 300B amplifier arrived, here's a piccy on my rack: This amp was recommended to me by optical , who sent me a pair of 6n8p's foc, thanks Chris. I have also replaced all the other tubes and now have EH300B's, RCA 5u4g and a pair of Phillips Mullard ECC81's. I've only listened to the amp for a couple of hours and I think Chris knows what he is talking about Even though it is only rated at a couple of watts more than my previous amp you would think it was a lot more. Will have to give this amp and valves a little more time before accessing seriously. The only problem was that it was missing external bias adjustment holes, but I have contacted both Aoshida Audio and Yaqin, Yaqin have told me it must be the latest model with auto biasing, Aoshida have told me to send a photo to their service dept so communication has been very good.
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Post by optical on Sept 24, 2022 7:29:50 GMT
Probably the best valve amp I ever owned, would still have mine if it hadn't gotten "lost" in the post a few years ago.....
(With a few mods of course....)
Congrats Dave, I knew you loved a big tranny
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 8:38:16 GMT
It is a bit odd looking, but who cares if the sound is good?
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Post by antonio on Sept 24, 2022 9:04:10 GMT
I agree Kevin, it is odd looking but so are all Yaqin amps, but they do seem to get good reviews in general and although not the best know Chinese manufacturer, at least they are known.
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Post by Bigman80 on Sept 24, 2022 10:48:16 GMT
I agree Kevin, it is odd looking but so are all Yaqin amps, but they do seem to get good reviews in general and although not the best know Chinese manufacturer, at least they are known. I love it. Visually interesting, which a lot of stuff isn't. If Chris has recommended it, it must be decent. Well done Dave!
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 24, 2022 10:49:03 GMT
Wow, I think it looks great.
If it's too ugly for you to bear looking at, Dave, I'll be happy to come and take it off your hands. Nice guy that I am, I won't even charge you for doing that.
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 24, 2022 10:51:09 GMT
Good choice on the EH 300B,btw, they're the best this side of silly money imo & ime.
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Post by macca on Sept 24, 2022 11:08:16 GMT
I also think it looks pretty good. Power indicator is the correct colour, no pointless bling, and it all seems to be solidly constructed.
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Post by pete on Sept 24, 2022 14:11:48 GMT
I agree and think it is a great looking piece. I’m sure it is sounding even better. Great choice Dave, enjoy the music
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 14:25:39 GMT
It looks to me like it was designed by two different people, and then joined together at final production. It would not stop me buying one, if the sound was good though.
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Post by jandl100 on Sept 24, 2022 15:49:18 GMT
Form follows function. I usually prefer it that way.
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Post by lurch on Sept 24, 2022 16:05:23 GMT
Only thing wrong with it is the colour, it needs to be ALL black. 😁
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Post by antonio on Sept 24, 2022 17:07:20 GMT
lurch They don't do a black version John or I would have ordered it
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Post by misterc on Sept 24, 2022 17:30:17 GMT
Congrats Dave, I knew you loved a big tranny
So the secrets out then Dave
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Post by antonio on Sept 25, 2022 5:45:11 GMT
I honestly don't know where Optical has got that idea.
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Post by antonio on Oct 20, 2022 7:08:04 GMT
Time for an update, the Yaqin is running in nicely and certainly pairs well with the Quad's. I get a much larger and precise soundstage, I will admit to missing a little of the EL34 magic from my Musical Paradise, I still think a good few more hours are needed on the Yaqin. Unfortunately one of the Quad's has developed a buzz/crackle, you can quite easily hear this when entering the room although it doesn't affect the sound when the music is playing, or at least to my ears. I have contacted One Thing Audio who have informed me the warranty is not transferable! These were refurbished at a cost of £1000 last April and the previous owner has told me there were no caveats regarding the warranty. I have now asked OTA twice how much he thinks the cost will be to put the speaker right and when it can be booked in for, not a word from him which is bloody annoying. On to some more good news, I have purchased a Lumin U2 mini from Badger (pfm) and it arrived yesterday, so far I have downloaded the app With all my techno knowledge I am not looking forward to the setting up of the damn thing, but will let you know how I get on and what it sounds like (don't be holding your breath), you will have to make do with a couple of pics. I hope you will be able to see what a quality item this looks to be and the finish is superb. Sorry lurch I appear to be turning silver, although the dac is still black, but the Soekris which is now in my brother's system is a very light colour.
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Post by firebottle on Oct 20, 2022 7:51:39 GMT
Do your 57"s still have the original mains transformer and the voltage selector? If so what is it set at?
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Post by antonio on Oct 20, 2022 8:36:55 GMT
firebottle You know me better than that Alan Seriously, I honestly don't know, would a photo of the back of the speaker help, or an email to OTA? I'll dig out the invoice and have a look at what it says.
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Post by antonio on Oct 20, 2022 8:47:28 GMT
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 20, 2022 10:45:39 GMT
There have been very mixed reports about One Thing on forums recently. Some reporting good service and results, others reporting non existent service or poor reliability of their work.
It seems to be pot luck.
I'd be looking to find other avenues of support for the speakers if it were me.
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