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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 1, 2022 18:52:19 GMT
I have been scouring the internet of late for other items of Japanese origin, and came across this rare beasty: zenmarket.jp/en/auction.aspx?itemCode=t1038319403At £7k i am rather put off, but it did get me thinking....is it worth getting an Aluminium Plinth made. I mean, i have no need for one as the Pazerplinth is pretty much unbeatable. I like the aesthetic though and i think it would be fun. I have access to a machine shop with a one of a kind owner who would be happy to billet one from a piece of Alu..... Should i bother? Panzerholz is getting to be in the unobtainium catagory in the UK... Consideration required. |
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Post by sq225917 on Mar 1, 2022 19:19:45 GMT
£1000 worth of 50mm plate and £1000 of cnc time and you could make better.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 1, 2022 19:22:15 GMT
£1000 worth of 50mm plate and £1000 of cnc time and you could make better. Nowhere near that cost mate, but yeah, i know better could be done. A 3M layer between that and some Delrin/Rare grain wood etc... |
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Post by karma67 on Mar 1, 2022 19:29:07 GMT
£1000 worth of 50mm plate and £1000 of cnc time and you could make better. i think even stevie wonder could do better,its a ugly imo. |
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Post by karma67 on Mar 1, 2022 19:29:49 GMT
I have been scouring the internet of late for other items of Japanese origin, and came across this rare beasty: zenmarket.jp/en/auction.aspx?itemCode=t1038319403At £7k i am rather put off, but it did get me thinking....is it worth getting an Aluminium Plinth made. I mean, i have no need for one as the Pazerplinth is pretty much unbeatable. I like the aesthetic though and i think it would be fun. I have access to a machine shop with a one of a kind owner who would be happy to billet one from a piece of Alu..... Should i bother? Panzerholz is getting to be in the unobtainium catagory in the UK... Consideration required. theres plenty about if you know where to look  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 1, 2022 19:35:29 GMT
I have been scouring the internet of late for other items of Japanese origin, and came across this rare beasty: zenmarket.jp/en/auction.aspx?itemCode=t1038319403At £7k i am rather put off, but it did get me thinking....is it worth getting an Aluminium Plinth made. I mean, i have no need for one as the Pazerplinth is pretty much unbeatable. I like the aesthetic though and i think it would be fun. I have access to a machine shop with a one of a kind owner who would be happy to billet one from a piece of Alu..... Should i bother? Panzerholz is getting to be in the unobtainium catagory in the UK... Consideration required. theres plenty about if you know where to look Oh? Panzerholz? |
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Post by robbiegong on Mar 1, 2022 19:59:26 GMT
£7K, yeah right ! Panzerholz plinth is job done, no need to even consider something like this - waste of time, big big waste of money, has to be said  |
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Post by electronumpty on Mar 1, 2022 20:31:04 GMT
If you like the look just get a polished Alu top plate done for your existing PH plinth. That's what I'd do wtih some damping/bonding material in between.
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Post by electronumpty on Mar 1, 2022 20:32:51 GMT
This !!🤔
"Please refrain from bidding if you are nervous or if you feel a little uneasy, as it may cause trouble"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 20:39:25 GMT
I would suggest a polyester resin plinth filled with bentonite clay. Interesting article here - qualia.webs.com/plinthbuilding.htmBut then again, a Panzer sandwich, with something appropriate may be better than what you have now. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 1, 2022 20:42:47 GMT
I would suggest a polyester resin plinth filled with bentonite clay. Interesting article here - qualia.webs.com/plinthbuilding.htmBut then again, a Panzer sandwich, with something appropriate may be better than what you have now. Not looking to change the Panzer-Plinth....just looking at what's available for future endeavors. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 20:45:46 GMT
Panzer/alu/panzer sandwich would be good. I think clear audio use that combination.
It seems it is actually alu/panzer/alu on ClearAudio.
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 1, 2022 20:52:55 GMT
Panzer/alu/panzer sandwich would be good. I think clear audio use that combination. It seems it is actually alu/panzer/alu on ClearAudio. Hmmmm.... interesting |
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Post by robbiegong on Mar 1, 2022 20:53:08 GMT
If you like the look just get a polished Alu top plate done for your existing PH plinth. That's what I'd do with some damping/bonding material in between. Superb and far more common sense idea than that £7k take on - would love to see a Panzer plinth with an added Ali touch. Done properly with care and thought would look class, particularly Kevin's Panzer/Alu sandwich suggestion   |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 22:27:16 GMT
Have a look at the ClearAudio Innovation Basic.
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Post by mikeyb on Mar 1, 2022 23:02:11 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 1, 2022 23:13:05 GMT
Yeah, don't like it. Don't want Delrin. |
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Post by electronumpty on Mar 1, 2022 23:13:16 GMT
Bigdude's got itchy fingers again, selling his 686 boards and now looking at plinth etc. He'll be on another speaker quest next! 🤣
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 1, 2022 23:25:01 GMT
Bigdude's got itchy fingers again, selling his 686 boards and now looking at plinth etc. He'll be on another speaker quest next! 🤣 Haha, not at all. As I said, it's in regard to getting panzer at a sensible price. Just looking at alternatives. |
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Post by mikeyb on Mar 2, 2022 7:50:42 GMT
As I said, it's in regard to getting panzer at a sensible price. Just looking at alternatives. There's someone over on Lencoheaven that has a source, he was selling some not long ago, but you maybe already knew that. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 2, 2022 7:54:55 GMT
As I said, it's in regard to getting panzer at a sensible price. Just looking at alternatives. There's someone over on Lencoheaven that has a source, he was selling some not long ago, but you maybe already knew that. There is a guy selling on PFM too, but he wants way too much money for it (IMO) last time I checked. Although I suspect it could go up again due to Putin's shitehousery. Andrew Cunningham used to import it and it was a fairly simple to get. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 8:19:36 GMT
The plinth in your original link is so expensive as it comes with a built in towel holder, or is it a toilet roll holder?
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Post by electronumpty on Mar 2, 2022 9:10:35 GMT
The plinth in your original link is so expensive as it comes with a built in towel holder, or is it a toilet roll holder? It's a handle for you to steady yourself with when you think about the cost of it. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Mar 2, 2022 9:59:18 GMT
The plinth in your original link is so expensive as it comes with a built in towel holder, or is it a toilet roll holder? Towel holder 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by robbiegong on Mar 2, 2022 11:04:33 GMT
The plinth in your original link is so expensive as it comes with a built in towel holder, or is it a toilet roll holder? lol, and a heated one at that price |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 12:36:44 GMT
It would be (a) heated (discussion) if I bought one of those.
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Post by robbiegong on Mar 2, 2022 13:07:13 GMT
It would be (a) heated (discussion) if I bought one of those. Indeed, bound to end in tears with someone throwing in the towel ....  |
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Post by misterc on Mar 2, 2022 15:57:29 GMT
Why not club togther buy one pull it apart and do it better. Some of the newer resin based and compiste materials have quite stunning porperties. Could have gone down that route a few times but its just a TT as a commerical proposion its a bit lame. But for a Hey look at what I can do it maybe worth the effort for some of you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 16:08:35 GMT
For some of us, you may be right.
Personally, I can’t be arsed messing about with plinths. No point on an SL1200.
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Post by sq225917 on Mar 2, 2022 18:49:16 GMT
Many moons ago I vibra-cast a speaker cabinet. Epoxy, silica balls, ground rubber, wood flour. It was a bugger to mix up, but the resultant cabinet was utterly dead. Was about 6g cm3, not ridiculously stiff, somewhete between plywood and alloy of same thickness but incredibly well damped. Not the level of surface finish we'd need for a plinth though..
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