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Post by hifinutt on Dec 10, 2021 22:45:37 GMT
Any amphion owners here ? Apparently they went down well at daventry. Just waiting for a pair of 3s argon to try out . Heard a pair of argon 1 at dealers recently and they were very engaging. As mister c would say they had no grain !!  daventry amphion 1 by , on Flickr this was argon 1 at daventry show |
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Post by antonio on Dec 10, 2021 22:51:06 GMT
I've said before Phil, liked em when I heard em  Enjoy your time with them. |
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 11, 2021 3:45:32 GMT
I owned a pair of Amphion Xenon floorstanders. Unfortunately I didn't get on with them at all. Dynamically bland, tonally grey and just plain tedious.
From Show experiences, their standmounts are a lot more interesting.
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Post by alit on Dec 12, 2021 14:01:49 GMT
Heard the Krypton 3's at a show. Best I heard there.
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Post by nonuffin on Dec 12, 2021 15:33:41 GMT
I listened for a long while in the Amphion room at the last Brissol show and to be truthful it was a very pleasant sound I could have heard for many hours.
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Post by hifinutt on Dec 12, 2021 22:09:08 GMT
I owned a pair of Amphion Xenon floorstanders. Unfortunately I didn't get on with them at all. Dynamically bland, tonally grey and just plain tedious. From Show experiences, their standmounts are a lot more interesting. good to hear your thoughts . One reason I love my tannoy standmounts is they are totally adjustable to the room. Adjusting treble energy very important as so many rooms differ |
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 13, 2021 9:09:11 GMT
Tannoys. Ooooooo, don't get me started on Tannoise! |
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Post by optical on Dec 13, 2021 9:15:52 GMT
I owned a pair of Amphion Xenon floorstanders. Unfortunately I didn't get on with them at all. Dynamically bland, tonally grey and just plain tedious. From Show experiences, their standmounts are a lot more interesting. good to hear your thoughts . One reason I love my tannoy standmounts is they are totally adjustable to the room. Adjusting treble energy very important as so many rooms differ Totally agree, it's sacrilege to some (using such methods) but unless your room fits perfectly with your chosen speakers (very unlikely) you need some tools in your arsenal to tweak and fine tune them to hear them at their best. Personally I have to use a combination of digital room correction, acoustic treatment AND adjust the crossovers on the speakers . . . . |
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 13, 2021 9:22:31 GMT
It's not just speakers, although I seriously doubt that any amount of tweakery would have made me like the Amphion Xenons. They were just a mess imho.
My current DAC of choice is just a bit forward and glarey - so introducing a lower treble dip of 1.5dB with my Behringer DEQ2496 digital equaliser sorts that out nicely and provides a superb overall presentation imo.
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Post by optical on Dec 13, 2021 9:29:16 GMT
It's not just speakers, although I seriously doubt that any amount of tweakery would have made me like the Amphion Xenons. They were just a mess imho. My current DAC of choice is just a bit forward and glarey - so introducing a lower treble dip of 1.5dB with my Behringer DEQ2496 digital equaliser sorts that out nicely and provides a superb overall presentation imo. Can't say enough good things about that DEQ Jerry, currently using it for both digital and analogue duties independent L&R channels AES/EBU in and out, fully balanced XLR in and out. Just a plethora of usability and tweak-ability. Far from ideal in a purist sense but who has an ideal room with kit to match? Interesting that it sounds like you use it to remove (or to that effect) 'glare' etc, do you think that is inherent of the DAC or some sort of reflection from walls/windows etc? What DAC are you currently running? |
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 13, 2021 9:36:38 GMT
It's not just speakers, although I seriously doubt that any amount of tweakery would have made me like the Amphion Xenons. They were just a mess imho. My current DAC of choice is just a bit forward and glarey - so introducing a lower treble dip of 1.5dB with my Behringer DEQ2496 digital equaliser sorts that out nicely and provides a superb overall presentation imo. Can't say enough good things about that DEQ Jerry, currently using it for both digital and analogue duties independent L&R channels AES/EBU in and out, fully balanced XLR in and out. Just a plethora of usability and tweak-ability. Far from ideal in a purist sense but who has an ideal room with kit to match? Interesting that it sounds like you use it to remove (or to that effect) 'glare' etc, do you think that is inherent of the DAC or some sort of reflection from walls/windows etc? What DAC are you currently running? I'm sure the touch of glare is inherent to the DAC, Chris. Most other DACs I've used don't have it. It's a XiangSheng DAC05Aii, I use it with the valve buffer output. I'm able to dial in the cut by ear, adjusting the centre frequency, width and amount of reduction. Easy to do with the Behringer. Of course, as it's done by ear, it's only intended to sound enjoyable. I suspect that an in room measurement would show some interesting things! |
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Post by optical on Dec 13, 2021 9:44:22 GMT
Can't say enough good things about that DEQ Jerry, currently using it for both digital and analogue duties independent L&R channels AES/EBU in and out, fully balanced XLR in and out. Just a plethora of usability and tweak-ability. Far from ideal in a purist sense but who has an ideal room with kit to match? Interesting that it sounds like you use it to remove (or to that effect) 'glare' etc, do you think that is inherent of the DAC or some sort of reflection from walls/windows etc? What DAC are you currently running? I'm sure the touch of glare is inherent to the DAC, Chris. Most other DACs I've used don't have it. It's a XiangSheng DAC05Aii, I use it with the valve buffer output. I'm able to dial in the cut by ear, adjusting the centre frequency, width and amount of reduction. Easy to do with the Behringer. Of course, as it's done by ear, it's only intended to sound enjoyable. I suspect that an in room measurement would show some interesting things! Interesting, I had the old version of that DAC, for the price you can't really argue. I like the dual toroidal transformers in this one too, a lot of DAC for the money. Any interest in tube rolling? As I always find the Chinese ones they come with a bit shrill and edgy . . . . As it happens I've got some spare Russian 5670 tubes (which are equivalent to the ones in this), they're infinitely better than the Chinese ones I've heard. Like I say I've got a few if you'd like to try one? You can have it no charge |
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 13, 2021 9:51:45 GMT
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Any interest in tube rolling? As I always find the Chinese ones they come with a bit shrill and edgy . . . .
As it happens I've got some spare Russian 5670 tubes (which are equivalent to the ones in this), they're infinitely better than the Chinese ones I've heard.
Like I say I've got a few if you'd like to try one? You can have it no charge
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Hey, many thanks, Chris, but I think I'm sorted.
I've currently got a nice GE 5670 valve in there. Yes, a nice improvement on the stock Chinese.
And yesterday I won a pair of nearly new Western Electric 396a on ebay. Previous experience indicates this should be the ultimate.
Of course, I'll have one WE to spare if anyone is interested!
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Post by optical on Dec 13, 2021 10:06:35 GMT
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Any interest in tube rolling? As I always find the Chinese ones they come with a bit shrill and edgy . . . .
As it happens I've got some spare Russian 5670 tubes (which are equivalent to the ones in this), they're infinitely better than the Chinese ones I've heard.
Like I say I've got a few if you'd like to try one? You can have it no charge
<Hey, many thanks, Chris, but I think I'm sorted. I've currently got a nice GE 5670 valve in there. Yes, a nice improvement on the stock Chinese. And yesterday I won a pair of nearly new Western Electric 396a on ebay. Previous experience indicates this should be the ultimate. Of course, I'll have one WE to spare if anyone is interested! Had the WE in a musical paradise DAC Jerry. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's going to float your boat . . . . . however. If you can I would implore you to get hold of an RCA 'Command' 5670 . . . it's the best there is imo. The WE is very VERY sweet but top to bottom the RCA has it all, awesome low end texture and detail. |
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 13, 2021 10:10:18 GMT
Awesome thread drift here!
Maybe different tastes or different system synergy or different music requirements (I'm 100% classical) , but I tried an RCA Command in my old XiangSheng DAC 01A and I preferred the WE.
But I'll keep an eye out for one if not too expensive. Maybe it'll work better for me in the DAC05Aii than in the DAC 01A.
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Post by optical on Dec 13, 2021 10:12:15 GMT
Awesome thread drift here! Yup apologies Phil, I instigated that completely! Amphion onward! |
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 13, 2021 10:15:21 GMT
Awesome thread drift here! Yup apologies Phil, I instigated that completely! Amphion onward! Yes, you want to be careful, Chris. I hear there's a new moderator on the forum, he might chastise you for this! |
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Post by antonio on Dec 13, 2021 12:25:08 GMT
All very interesting, I'm sure hifinut will not mind.
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Post by hifinutt on Dec 14, 2021 22:42:08 GMT
Absolutely!!
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Post by hifinutt on Dec 19, 2021 23:04:11 GMT
Had the 3s in situ for a few days now . Used with a very modest arcam a85 and onkyo sacd player and chord oddy speaker cable. Treble set to standard at the back Very live sound that is pretty good despite the very bright room. Smooth but lively .soundstage not brilliant. However playing Zimmer 2049 did result in vibration to my listening chair as these have impressive bass . Very balanced sound . After a few days I changed to 25 watt f5 monoblocks with bc pre 3 vbs and marantz sa8005 with van damme 6mm studio speaker cable Immediately you could hear very big improvement in soundstage which was quite striking . I have a sneaky suspicion that these would be even better with more power but they are continuing to improve with better amps Listening continues... these are the 3s  P1070794 by , on Flickr  P1070793 by , on Flickr  P1070796 by , on Flickr |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 19, 2021 23:14:20 GMT
Bookshelf speakers?
I'm not up on Amphion.
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Post by hifinutt on Dec 20, 2021 23:03:05 GMT
Will post tommorrow, they are nice looking and the wood finish is real . Made in Finland too
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Post by hifinutt on Dec 21, 2021 10:34:20 GMT
pics added through thread these are the wood finish argon 1 which i heard at dealers and roughly the same size as harbeth p3esr  P1070806 by , on Flickr  P1070804 by , on Flickr  P1070805 by , on Flickr |
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Post by hifinutt on Dec 30, 2021 12:05:06 GMT
been using the 3s with 25 watt F5 clones monoblocks . excellent sound . popped in some icepower asx 50 monoblocks as i reckon the 3s like plenty of power . the icepower lean towards being a bit warm with my tannoys and they were just excellent with the amphion . very engaging and transparent but still can listen for a fair while without fatigue . still assessing them . Early next year will have a moonriver 404 reference to try but will do separate thread re moonriver amps
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 30, 2021 12:23:05 GMT
pics added through thread these are the wood finish argon 1 which i heard at dealers and roughly the same size as harbeth p3esr P1070806 by , on Flickr P1070804 by , on Flickr P1070805 by , on Flickr Attractive boxes aren't they. |
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Post by macca on Dec 30, 2021 12:35:05 GMT
Have you bought these Phil or just on trial?
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 1, 2022 11:28:37 GMT
yes the argon 1 i have bought , amphion 3 s on demo from a very kind dealer
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Post by macca on Jan 1, 2022 12:57:04 GMT
I like the gloss white finish but it seems to divide people.
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 3, 2022 16:10:39 GMT
yes the white finish is like a satin finish . attractive. cant stand the black . i have the walnut wood finish
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 8, 2022 18:52:03 GMT
Had the moonriver on the argon one and pretty decent sound . Have to say these don't disappoint at all . Extremely impressive speaker , lovely with vocals .very balanced sound and compelling . Will give these 9.5 out of 10
They even sound good with the modest arcam
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Enjoy your time with them.
