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Post by rexton on Dec 5, 2021 21:57:08 GMT
Found this, might be interesting to some of you.
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Post by sq225917 on Dec 6, 2021 1:26:04 GMT
And then its plugged into the back of a bit of kit and has to go through numerous internal caps, pcb traces with high impedance, internal regulators with lower bandwidth and slower operation and you lose most of the goodness. Just fit the best internal local reg you can build/buy.
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Post by antonio on Dec 6, 2021 3:27:57 GMT
Found this, might be interesting to some of you.
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Post by brucew268 on Dec 6, 2021 8:59:18 GMT
Paul Hynes speaks about a whole load of things that one rarely reads about in power supply marketing literature aimed at mortals. If one did not have to wait 8+ months, the performance of the SR4 put together with its comparatively low cost would be a no brainer.
Thanks for pointing us to this review, was an enjoyable read.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 6, 2021 9:14:33 GMT
Paul Hynes speaks about a whole load of things that one rarely reads about in power supply marketing literature aimed at mortals. If one did not have to wait 8+ months, his track record put together with the comparatively low cost of an SR4 would be a no brainer. Thanks for pointing us to this review, was an enjoyable read. I was planning on using some of this guys modules for the Soekris: www.ldovr.com/product-p/tps7a4700-spsu.htmSeems Mr Hynes is a fan of that regulator too. |
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Post by brucew268 on Dec 6, 2021 9:28:31 GMT
Paul Hynes speaks about a whole load of things that one rarely reads about in power supply marketing literature aimed at mortals. If one did not have to wait 8+ months, his track record put together with the comparatively low cost of an SR4 would be a no brainer. Thanks for pointing us to this review, was an enjoyable read. I was planning on using some of this guys modules for the Soekris: www.ldovr.com/product-p/tps7a4700-spsu.htmI used some reg boards of his for internal replacements in some ethernet switches. But after reading the design considerations of Hynes in this article, it reminds me again how much more there is to it than most of what us DIYers can contemplate... and makes me wonder how many PSU makers are in his league. How many in the £200-500 range are designed to the same level or would yield the same results? Like I know?! Of course if one wants to spend £4000 on a power supply, there are options  .
Meanwhile my itchy fingers play around the relatively poor and uneducated verges of DIY.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 6, 2021 9:39:06 GMT
I used some reg boards of his for internal replacements in some ethernet switches. But after reading the design considerations of Hynes in this article, it reminds me again how much more there is to it than most of what us DIYers can contemplate... and makes me wonder how many PSU makers are in his league. How many in the £200-500 range are designed to the same level or would yield the same results? Like I know?! Of course if one wants to spend £4000 on a power supply, there are options .
Meanwhile my itchy fingers play around the relatively poor and uneducated verges of DIY.
There's always someone who'll know more that someone else! Lol I know that the big thing in Vinyl for a while now has been to get analogue power supplies for TTs.....however, the cost of them is utterly eye watering. |
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Post by brucew268 on Dec 6, 2021 9:53:59 GMT
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Post by rexton on Dec 6, 2021 18:51:32 GMT
Paul has now closed up shop and has a big legal battle on his hands with people looking for compensation. Oh dear!
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 6, 2021 18:56:33 GMT
Paul has now closed up shop and has a big legal battle on his hands with people looking for compensation. Oh dear! Oh dear, any details Andrew? |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 6, 2021 19:05:34 GMT
Crikey, just having a browse around the internet suggests reason I shall not repeat here due to the lack of evidence or confirmation, but it looks like his reputation has taken a battering.
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Post by rexton on Dec 6, 2021 20:19:33 GMT
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Post by rexton on Dec 6, 2021 20:22:20 GMT
I actually have the top SR7 PSU that he produced powering my 1210.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 6, 2021 20:31:50 GMT
Wow.......it seems he has previous for this behavior too |
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Post by brucew268 on Dec 6, 2021 22:22:05 GMT
Wow.......it seems he has previous for this behavior too I was choosing to focus on the quality of and demand for his products, ignoring the whole aspect of a business that has seemed unable or unwilling to deliver product and unwilling to communicate forthrightly about it. I've been seeing reports by people with close to two years waiting, abysmal communication, and giving up. I kept hearing of health issues causing delays but it didn't quite add up. And for a while I heard he'd outsourced production to solve those problems, but never saw if it was resolved. Too bad, because his products seem to have universal acclaim. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 6, 2021 22:37:56 GMT
Wow.......it seems he has previous for this behavior too I was choosing to focus on the quality of and demand for his products, ignoring the whole aspect of a business that has seemed unable or unwilling to deliver product and unwilling to communicate forthrightly about it. I've been seeing the people with close to two years wait for a while and abysmal communication. I kept hearing of health issues causing delays but it didn't quite add up. And for a while I thought he'd outsourced production to solve those problems, but never saw if it was resolved. Too bad, because his products seem to have universal acclaim. I read earlier that he's done this before. Shut one business, go "bankrupt" and then restart under a new company name. There are people who have paid the full amount of £4000 for custom power supplies and have been waiting over 50 months! Poor form. |
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Post by electronumpty on Dec 7, 2021 8:35:11 GMT
If it's true he's nothing more than a dishonest crook. Good product or not. Serial Phoenix companies to avoid debts and consequences really piss me off
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Post by antonio on Dec 7, 2021 8:54:32 GMT
I'm well behind times on this since I've never even heard of this before. It is awful people can lose money like that, then declare yourself bankrupt, and start up again, as they say 'the law is arse' oops sorry ass.
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Post by macca on Dec 7, 2021 10:15:37 GMT
This is always the problem with these systems where you pay upfront and they build the product whenever they get around to it.
Instead they could have had a system where you order, they build it, then you pay when it is ready to ship. Change your mind they just sell your completed unit to the next punter in the queue. Everyone's happy.
Anyone who wants money up front before they even get started on the build is either dodgy or doesn't have the first idea what they are doing.
If the company doesn't have enough cash reserve to fund the initial builds then that's a warning sign from the start.
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Post by robbiegong on Dec 7, 2021 10:18:21 GMT
Like Andy, I had his big SR7 HD ps, powering the heavily modded Technics SL1210 I had at that time, plus internal regulator modules.
It was a big thing of quality and took performance / sonics to another level BUT yes, the time, chasing, calls etc, it was painful. It felt as though I was never ever going to receive it - I was relieved out of my brain when I eventually had it in my hands.
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Post by macca on Dec 7, 2021 10:25:06 GMT
what aspect of the turntable was it supposed to improve? Speed stability? I can't see how it would do anything over the stock supply. Same with the stupidly expensive bearings everyone was buying.
Did anyone ever measure any improvement in speed stability? I would want more than subjective opinion before paying thousands out.
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Post by mikeyb on Dec 7, 2021 10:31:11 GMT
Having spoken to Paul in the past I know some of the reasons for his really slow output.
Two elderly parents both needing care ( his reason for the move to North Uist in the Outer Hebrides ), which he himself has to look after.
Hand built by himself then when he was trying to get set up with a few local employees, train them to be competent in building his kit COVID hit and that pretty much finished him.
Too many orders and no one to help him build meant he was overstretched and from there it all goes downhill.
Locating to the Outer Hebrides didn’t help but he had no choice due to the health of his parents and it certainly doesn’t help with logistics, ferries can be offline for days at a time.
Sad that people are out of pocket but it’s always a risk with bespoke designers/manufacturers. Just look at the Westlake carry on.
I had one of his SR7 supplies and regulators for the 1210 I had and it was a really nice bit of kit.
The warning signs were there for years for anyone who could use the internet.
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 7, 2021 10:37:07 GMT
This is always the problem with these systems where you pay upfront and they build the product whenever they get around to it. Instead they could have had a system where you order, they build it, then you pay when it is ready to ship. Change your mind they just sell your completed unit to the next punter in the queue. Everyone's happy. Anyone who wants money up front before they even get started on the build is either dodgy or doesn't have the first idea what they are doing. If the company doesn't have enough cash reserve to fund the initial builds then that's a warning sign from the start. As the proprietor of a minute operation, I can see the reason for charging up front. It's protection against your investment In materials, and for custom builds like he did, there may not be another customer with the same requirements waiting in the wings. However, the sensible and most reasonable solution is to request a deposit. That's what I do, and it's worked really well. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 7, 2021 10:43:32 GMT
Having spoken to Paul in the past I know some of the reasons for his really slow output. Two elderly parents both needing care ( his reason for the move to North Uist in the Outer Hebrides ), which he himself has to look after. Hand built by himself then when he was trying to get set up with a few local employees, train them to be competent in building his kit COVID hit and that pretty much finished him. Too many orders and no one to help him build meant he was overstretched and from there it all goes downhill. Locating to the Outer Hebrides didn’t help but he had no choice due to the health of his parents and it certainly doesn’t help with logistics, ferries can be offline for days at a time. Sad that people are out of pocket but it’s always a risk with bespoke designers/manufacturers. Just look at the Westlake carry on. I had one of his SR7 supplies and regulators for the 1210 I had and it was a really nice bit of kit. The warning signs were there for years for anyone who could use the internet. As always, there will be mitigating circumstances. It's easy to see that his location would have been a huge issue, but the smart move was to employ someone who knew what they were doing electronically, and afix their worksite to the mainland. In reality, he should have stopped the custom stuff and outsourced the solder monkey level stuff to a capable person. He then could have picked up the custom stuff when time allows. It's a shame in one respect, as it looks like he was trying to do everything himself with no real support. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and get a bit if help. |
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Post by mikeyb on Dec 7, 2021 10:50:08 GMT
Having spoken to Paul in the past I know some of the reasons for his really slow output. Two elderly parents both needing care ( his reason for the move to North Uist in the Outer Hebrides ), which he himself has to look after. Hand built by himself then when he was trying to get set up with a few local employees, train them to be competent in building his kit COVID hit and that pretty much finished him. Too many orders and no one to help him build meant he was overstretched and from there it all goes downhill. Locating to the Outer Hebrides didn’t help but he had no choice due to the health of his parents and it certainly doesn’t help with logistics, ferries can be offline for days at a time. Sad that people are out of pocket but it’s always a risk with bespoke designers/manufacturers. Just look at the Westlake carry on. I had one of his SR7 supplies and regulators for the 1210 I had and it was a really nice bit of kit. The warning signs were there for years for anyone who could use the internet. As always, there will be mitigating circumstances. It's easy to see that his location would have been a huge issue, but the smart move was to employ someone who knew what they were doing electronically, and afix their worksite to the mainland. In reality, he should have stopped the custom stuff and outsourced the solder monkey level stuff to a capable person. He then could have picked up the custom stuff when time allows. It's a shame in one respect, as it looks like he was trying to do everything himself with no real support. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and get a bit if help. Exactly, I’m pretty sure he was swamped and his location, parents and COVID lockdown just compounded it, but then again he had supply issues before he moved. He came across as someone who was considerate, helpful and approachable when I had dealings with him when I was setting up the SR7 on my Techie, and these aren’t always good attributes for business, yeah great if you’ve a business head too but sometimes they can be your downfall. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 7, 2021 10:54:11 GMT
As always, there will be mitigating circumstances. It's easy to see that his location would have been a huge issue, but the smart move was to employ someone who knew what they were doing electronically, and afix their worksite to the mainland. In reality, he should have stopped the custom stuff and outsourced the solder monkey level stuff to a capable person. He then could have picked up the custom stuff when time allows. It's a shame in one respect, as it looks like he was trying to do everything himself with no real support. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and get a bit if help. Exactly, I’m pretty sure he was swamped and his location, parents and COVID lockdown just compounded it, but then again he had supply issues before he moved. He came across as someone who was considerate, helpful and approachable when I had dealings with him when I was setting up the SR7 on my Techie, and these aren’t always good attributes for business, yeah great if you’ve a business head too but sometimes they can be your downfall. Too many people try to do too much all at once and end up struggling. I was killing myself at the start of the year building stuff.....it's easy to get bogged down. |
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Post by macca on Dec 7, 2021 11:50:43 GMT
This is always the problem with these systems where you pay upfront and they build the product whenever they get around to it. Instead they could have had a system where you order, they build it, then you pay when it is ready to ship. Change your mind they just sell your completed unit to the next punter in the queue. Everyone's happy. Anyone who wants money up front before they even get started on the build is either dodgy or doesn't have the first idea what they are doing. If the company doesn't have enough cash reserve to fund the initial builds then that's a warning sign from the start. As the proprietor of a minute operation, I can see the reason for charging up front. It's protection against your investment In materials, and for custom builds like he did, there may not be another customer with the same requirements waiting in the wings. However, the sensible and most reasonable solution is to request a deposit. That's what I do, and it's worked really well. The risk should be with the business not the punter IMO but that's by the by. if you read the thread Bruce linked to it's clear that he did farm out the standard builds to the separate company that he set up. But the punters still had to pay in advance, and those are the punters who've been stiffed. The custom builds he handles himself and they are still ongoing (albeit people have been waiting years now). He has said all the custom builds will still be fulfilled, but not the standard builds. Anyone who paid for a standard unit and didn't yet receive it lost their money when the company went into liquidation. Looks like he was paying himself a salary out of the company and took a directors loan out of it too. You don't do that if the company is short of working capital which it clearly was. You wait until the company is in a comfortable situation capital-wise and is then able to ride out any downturns. Looks to me like they sold a few PSUs and then decided there was enough potential revenue to employ four additional people, rent and outfit premises, and pay him out a salary as a consultant and a twenty grand loan. Naïve or a scam, you decide. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 7, 2021 11:52:38 GMT
As the proprietor of a minute operation, I can see the reason for charging up front. It's protection against your investment In materials, and for custom builds like he did, there may not be another customer with the same requirements waiting in the wings. However, the sensible and most reasonable solution is to request a deposit. That's what I do, and it's worked really well. The risk should be with the business not the punter IMO but that's by the by. if you read the thread Bruce linked to it's clear that he did farm out the standard builds to the separate company that he set up. But the punters still had to pay in advance, and those are the punters who've been stiffed. The custom builds he handles himself and they are still ongoing (albeit people have been waiting years now). He has said all the custom builds will still be fulfilled, but not the standard builds. Anyone who paid for a standard unit and didn't yet receive it lost their money when the company went into liquidation. Looks like he was paying himself a salary out of the company and took a directors loan out of it too. You don't do that if the company is short of working capital which it clearly was. You wait until the company is in a comfortable situation capital-wise and is then able to ride out any downturns. Looks to me like they sold a few PSUs and then decided there was enough potential revenue to employ four additional people, rent and outfit premises, and pay him out a salary as a consultant and a twenty grand loan. Naïve or a scam, you decide. Well it's happened before, so Its either negligence or deliberate. |
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Post by electronumpty on Dec 7, 2021 12:16:44 GMT
Well it's happened before, so Its either negligence or deliberate. Well, you don't take a loan out of your company by mistake. Edited - as got the amount potentially wrong. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Dec 7, 2021 12:22:41 GMT
Well it's happened before, so Its either negligence or deliberate. Well, you don't take a 20k loan out of your company by mistake. Wow.....unreal. Still, I am a great believer in the power of Karma, and it usually equals things out. . |
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