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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 7, 2021 21:11:44 GMT
Attachment Deleted The idea of hand-made/ DIY / loudspeakers was born in me, when I saw the model of JBL-tI6K . The design and fabrication of these unique shapes are made by a Danish designer. The pyramidal shape of the speakers is generally denied by the DIYers, or at least for the most part, but I decided at the moment that's my loudspeaker design. If there is interest in the topic, I will continue ;
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Post by Bigman80 on Nov 7, 2021 21:40:11 GMT
View Attachment The idea of hand-made/ DIY / loudspeakers was born in me, when I saw the model of JBL-tI6K . The design and fabrication of these unique shapes are made by a Danish designer. The pyramidal shape of the speakers is generally denied by the DIYers, or at least for the most part, but I decided at the moment that's my loudspeaker design. If there is interest in the topic, I will continue ; Wow! They look very well made. How do they sound.
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 7, 2021 21:53:20 GMT
<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> The idea of hand-made/ DIY / loudspeakers was born in me, when I saw the model of JBL-tI6K . The design and fabrication of these unique shapes are made by a Danish designer. The pyramidal shape of the speakers is generally denied by the DIYers, or at least for the most part, but I decided at the moment that's my loudspeaker design. If there is interest in the topic, I will continue ; Wow! They look very well made. How do they sound. Thanks! This is the technical characteristic / I will publish the diagram later /; SEAS" - Excel / Tw-1 ", Mw-5" for center 2x 5.5 ", Bass-8.5" / and cross-over parts- "Intertechnik". Nominal impedance- 8 Ohm Frequency Range 30Hz-20kHzCharacterstic Sensitivity (2.83V / 1m) - 87db Long Term-110W. I think you've already answered for yourself what the sound is.
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Post by jandl100 on Nov 8, 2021 4:39:55 GMT
They look fantastic. Congratulations, that's an amazing achievement!
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Post by macca on Nov 8, 2021 8:07:27 GMT
impressive, I would like to know more.
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 8, 2021 12:33:13 GMT
They look fantastic. Congratulations, that's an amazing achievement! Thank you!
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 8, 2021 12:34:47 GMT
impressive, I would like to know more. Thanks, you will learn!
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Post by optical on Nov 8, 2021 15:50:56 GMT
Wonderful, they really are something.
Imagine the rear tapered "teardrop" shape is very deliberate to cure cabinet resonance or similar?
Great stuff.
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Post by electronumpty on Nov 8, 2021 16:20:01 GMT
They look amazing, whats the finish on them?
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 8, 2021 18:41:31 GMT
Wonderful, they really are something. Imagine the rear tapered "teardrop" shape is very deliberate to cure cabinet resonance or similar? Great stuff. We all know, what is the ideal shape for the speakers- sphere. For technological reasons, it is difficult to do, especially with three tape loudspeakers. I strive to make the second most effective form - the egg.
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 8, 2021 18:45:11 GMT
They look amazing, whats the finish on them? Thanks! You will surely understand, a little patience, please!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2021 20:01:52 GMT
I patiently wait for the next instalment…
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Post by brucew268 on Nov 8, 2021 21:01:27 GMT
That is some beautiful and skillful workmanship! I can imagine why most woodworkers would balk at trying to craft such a 'box'!
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 8, 2021 22:38:29 GMT
That is some beautiful and skillful workmanship! I can imagine why most woodworkers would balk at trying to craft such a 'box'! Thank you! One clarification, I am a high-voltage electrical engineer by profession, I am 62 years old and I have many DIY projects behind me, but I really like working with wood. I think a lot of questions were dropped at that point.
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Post by antonio on Nov 8, 2021 23:42:54 GMT
Truly stunning speakers, and that's the first pair you have made, unbelievable.
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 8, 2021 23:50:52 GMT
Truly stunning speakers, and that's the first pair you have made, unbelievable. Thanks! Аctually three cabinets, the center is a very serious challenge!
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Post by antonio on Nov 9, 2021 0:05:45 GMT
My apologies, missed the centre speaker.
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 9, 2021 14:52:18 GMT
I'll show you, how I made these speakers, supported with photos and with detailed information as possible. This project is a long time ago and some of the stages during their construction , I can not show them - I do not have the necessary material, but what is available, I suppose will be enough to provoke your interest.
At first, I had to figure out how to bend MDF plates. In the internet now has a very detailed material on how this process is being carried out with complicated multi-operative press mashine, but 2009 this information was scarce and irrelevant to me because, its clear I can not make a similar device at home.
For this purpose, I made this "Home Matrix" for the center and front speakers;
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 9, 2021 14:54:02 GMT
On these matrices I bended 8 layers of 4mm MDF. The adhesives I've used will be discussed at a later stage;
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 9, 2021 14:55:19 GMT
The filters are positioned in this way;
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 9, 2021 14:57:44 GMT
My initial idea was, for a bass speaker 6.5 ", but once I assembled the pilot model and measured the internal volume of the cabinet, found that I had enough reserve even for a 10" speaker. I decided at this stage to use 8.5 ". This is the first option;
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 9, 2021 15:01:06 GMT
Please, for your apology, I have no idea what the rules are in this forum for consecutive posts, I will stop, thank you for your attention!
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Post by macca on Nov 9, 2021 17:01:34 GMT
No, carry on.
I designed a couple of speakers years back now but I had a mate who was a cabinet maker by trade to build them for me. I did the soldering, that was it.
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 9, 2021 23:15:54 GMT
The final decision; "SEAS" - Excel / Tw-1 ", Mw-5" for center 2x 5.5 ", Bass-8.5" / and cross-over parts- "Intertechnik". Nominal impedance- 8 OhFreguency Range 30Hz-20kHzCharacterstic Sensitivity (2.83V / 1m) - 87db Long Term-110W.
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 9, 2021 23:19:49 GMT
The veneer I use in Bulgaria is known as "Birds of Maple", in the world is also known as "Bird's eye" . We reach the moment of very specific activity - veneering with natural veneer. When veneering panels, details is in one plane, there are no problems. There is only a requirement - the person who collects the individual pieces has good skills, the rest is completed by the pneumatic press.
When we talk about a complex shape, our immediate association is for "Vacuum press", but there is a limit to the thickness / height / of the workpiece. If we are talking about veneering of a flat surface with motifs on the surface - it does work, but if it is another massive form dont.
Due to the complexity of the process, i will pay close attention to it. My technique is complex, risky on a large scale and I definitely do not recommend it to enthusiasts with little experience! A natural veneer can bend tangentially or radially, usually masters prefer to work in just one direction - for less headaches.In my method of processing, I use both bending directions simultaneously, but add a third diagonal bending.
The other main problem is the adhesive with which it sticks the veneer, it is polychloroprene, this glue does not allow you to move the veneer, once touched to the base there is no other chance-stays there. If you try to move it, you will break the veneer at the moment, and when we talk about "Birds of Maple" with a price over 40 EUR, the feeling it's not pleasant!
I will explain my technique for cutting veneer before gluing it.
On the finished cabinet of the loudspeaker, from " India paper" / she is the closest with the veneer / I make the templates that should lie perfectly on the base. The problem is in the wrong shape, the veneer after gluing in one part, changes his shape, although everything has previously been matched perfectly. It requires a lot of attention, patience, and proper judgment, which part should squeeze, otherwise balloon spaces are created, which are very difficult to correct without being visible later. Sometimes, depending on the type of veneer, moistening helps, but this action also requires judgment with experience.
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 10, 2021 0:11:41 GMT
Here is the place to show what kind of glues I use - those;
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 10, 2021 0:14:59 GMT
After veneering the next steps are, to make the desired color , and the following finish manipulation , spraying with high quality automobile acrylic lacquer.
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 10, 2021 0:19:05 GMT
To obtain the desired gloss, after about the tenth layer, the surface after each new one subsequent layer (total about 20-25) is polished, the result is this end product;
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Post by antonio on Nov 10, 2021 1:46:32 GMT
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Post by jororaitchev on Nov 10, 2021 1:58:26 GMT
Thanks!
The final cut / picture/ of this project, or maybe not;
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