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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 10:19:41 GMT
# Moan:
# This is also a question: Who can YOU trust with your new shiny devices when all of it (New shiny devices) is in Beta mode?
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Point! The question below:
Any ideas on which Bluetooth will give access via the home without quality loss. (It's a dificult one I know).
Bought Asus BT5 USB.... What a waste of hard earned.
It it ain't able to accept Logi mouse and stream music at same time even though Manufacturer says it does. Typical of manufacturers nowadays.
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 23, 2021 10:27:06 GMT
Guilty Secret - -
I use Bluetooth 5 aptX HD all the time now for my music.
All streamed via my phone from an Internet streaming service (Qobuz, YouTube and Spotify atm) into a £35 Chinese Bluetooth receiver with digital outputs to my DAC de jour.
Works flawlessly and sounds great imho.
.. . . Err, I'm not sure what you want to know....?
I don't know what a Logi mouse is, any relation to Mickey?
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Post by hudz on Feb 23, 2021 11:32:29 GMT
Can you post a link to the bluetooth receiver you use please Jerry?  , been looking but there's way too much choice. |
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 23, 2021 12:00:17 GMT
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Post by hudz on Feb 23, 2021 13:05:43 GMT
Much appreciated Jerry. |
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 23, 2021 13:31:55 GMT
Much appreciated Jerry. I forgot to mention, if you use that power bank you'll have to plug an extra load into it, as the BT receiver doesn't draw enough power and the power bank shuts down as it thinks it's not being used! |
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Post by hudz on Feb 23, 2021 14:18:57 GMT
No problem thanks, got a spare adjustable linear supply, which should do? Hopefully...
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Post by antonio on Feb 24, 2021 6:46:28 GMT
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Post by hudz on Feb 24, 2021 10:10:01 GMT
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Post by misterc on Feb 24, 2021 11:06:59 GMT
Tis a glorious day today I feel a little frivolity is in order gents
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Post by sq225917 on Feb 24, 2021 13:01:01 GMT
Bought a logitech usb5 receiver the other day. Don't know what the dac inside is but it sounds fine in the kitchen. Back to back into my pre vs the gustard using phone and Bluetooth it's left wanting...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 18:55:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 19:07:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 19:14:53 GMT
Just to be clear. I have my system: A&norma > Alexa > Logi z906 speakers.
Cheap but really good sound.
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Post by antonio on Feb 25, 2021 1:41:37 GMT
Nice one Hudz, hope it works for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 6:19:35 GMT
Going to ask you later how the performance is? |
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 25, 2021 15:44:39 GMT
No. That doesn't have digital outputs, it just uses its own doubtlessly cheap and crappy on board DAC. The whole point of the one I linked to is that you can use your own super-duper wonderful DAC. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 23:20:29 GMT
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 26, 2021 7:03:26 GMT
What do I think?
Once again, and follow me closely here, it does not have a digital output.
It uses its own on board DAC, albeit a better one in the case of the Alieexpress item.
What I want is to use my own DAC. <- that's the important bit.
To do that the Bluetooth gizmo needs to have a digital output that can feed into my own DAC of choice.
The 2 items you have mentioned only output in analog, they use the DAC that's on-board the Bluetooth device.
I want to use my own rather wonderful R-2R DAC.
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Post by hudz on Feb 26, 2021 7:19:25 GMT
Au contraire mon ami, my choice has optical out  , not that I own any dacs at the moment. |
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 26, 2021 8:47:47 GMT
Ah, I didn't spot that! Anyway, optical. Pshah. Coax is a lot better imo. Especially with my super duper Ixos cable. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 10:20:47 GMT
What do I think? Once again, and follow me closely here, it does not have a digital output. It uses its own on board DAC, albeit a better one in the case of the Alieexpress item. What I want is to use my own DAC. <- that's the important bit. To do that the Bluetooth gizmo needs to have a digital output that can feed into my own DAC of choice. The 2 items you have mentioned only output in analog, they use the DAC that's on-board the Bluetooth device. I want to use my own rather wonderful R-2R DAC. Interesting thoughts? But isn't you HiFi output Analogue? |
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Post by stevew on Feb 26, 2021 14:09:10 GMT
These are not the droids you are looking for.
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Post by macca on Feb 26, 2021 17:34:13 GMT
Ah, I didn't spot that! Anyway, optical. Pshah. Coax is a lot better imo. Especially with my super duper Ixos cable. Got to say I struggle with this. I think optical might sound a bit more 'relaxed' to me but that's probably not real. No way one can be a lot better than the other unless something odd is happening. |
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 26, 2021 18:00:31 GMT
... and I'm sure you've got a graph to prove it.  |
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Post by macca on Feb 26, 2021 18:07:27 GMT
lol well it's just the way it works isn't it? Really optical should be a bit better as it can't transmit noise. Or something. Anyway I really can't tell the difference on mine and I've swapped back and forth and played the same music at the same volume. Just not resolving enough. Maybe when I get my Tannoys I hear it then Jerry? |
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 26, 2021 18:12:39 GMT
The signal isn't optical, it has to be converted to and from that form to go down an optical cable.
I can't imagine why that would be a perfect interface.
Or something.
Anyway, I hear them as different.
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 26, 2021 18:18:27 GMT
Tannoise. My favourites.  |
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Post by macca on Feb 26, 2021 18:26:20 GMT
It does but is still a digital code expressed as a voltage at that point, it isn't a voltage representing an analogue wave form. So it shouldn't matter.
Plus that electrical signal could still carry noise, but once converted to light it can't. which is an advantage for optical.
As I understand it, and I might be wrong, asynchronos usb is technically the best. But there doesn't seem to be much love for USB here. I've not tried it.
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 26, 2021 18:35:29 GMT
Yes, fair point about the digital conversion. I was just making it up to justify my subjective preference. |
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, been looking but there's way too much choice. 
, not that I own any dacs at the moment.
